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we want to welcome everyone to apps icon

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2019 this year's theme is understanding

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and enabling to search for life on the

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worlds near and far which is a critical

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step in answering the age-old question

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are we alone in the universe on our

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planet we've discovered microbes deep

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under the ice in Antarctica in extremely

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hot environments at hydrothermal vents

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under the ocean and in the driest

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deserts we could imagine it's incredibly

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difficult to find a place on earth where

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life cannot survive but that's just one

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data point and were headed to another

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the newly announced Artemis program lead

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us back to the moon as a stepping stone

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to a critical astrobiology target Mars

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NASA's search for life in the solar

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system wouldn't exist without you our

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incredibly diverse and hard-working

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community of astrobiologists the

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important science you all do on our

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planet helps look for life on Mars and

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other worlds like Jupiter's moon Europa

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or Saturn's moons and Celica sand Titan

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it takes everyone from all over with

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diverse backgrounds working together to

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bring new questions insights and

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discoveries NASA writes itself on

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celebrating inclusion and diversity and

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speaking of pride junus Pride Month in

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honor of Pride Month we especially want

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to recognize the extraordinary work of

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our LGBTQIA scientists again thank you

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for all the hard work you do have a

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great week I just want to let you know

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that both Thomas and Laurie actually

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really wanted to be here this year they

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realized that there was going to be an

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exciting meeting with lots of important

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discoveries and they spent the time and

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their busy schedules to make this

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introductory video to welcome you to the

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meeting and and show their appreciation

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so anyway that's starting us off we have

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a really tightly packed hour

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the agenda kept getting filled even more

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and more in the last few hours but we're

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gonna start out with a report from the

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principal investigator for the Sam

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instrument on curiosity

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everybody's been hearing the buzz about

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methane did they measure it is it high

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is there life what's the story and so we

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have Paul Mahaffey here to tell us what

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what exactly is going on thanks Mary

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it's been a pretty exciting last few

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days I must say in five minutes I'm

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gonna give you the history of methane on

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Mars which started off a few years ago

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actually with earth-based sensing when

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plumes were reported from mauna kea

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infrared spectroscopy and so when we

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spectrometer down in that region has

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noise background contamination and so we

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invited Chris Webster to put a tunable

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laser spectrometer on Sam tunable laser

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spectrometer is a nice small device

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where light bounces back between two

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mirrors and for a very small device you

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say the least and so we were gonna go to

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variation but we had never seen enhanced

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methane or a methane flew more spiked or

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York Times and we decided anyway with

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great help from Ashwin we would scrap

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cane just came back and in fact the

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methane plume went away it's we measured

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what we've seen all along but just a

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planetary Fourier spectrometer had flown

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over Gale Crater and they were using in

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a mode where basically they stared at

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Gale Crater quite complicated but

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basically summing up hundreds of spectra

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paper forty six tons of methane in a

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plume came and a plume went we're very

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trace gas orbiter which to date has not

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measurements and so on so that's the

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clarification otherwise find it buy you

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does anybody have any quick

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future to let you guys know a little bit

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about the history in terms of what have

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the proposal pressures and and what sort

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all of those programs are here tonight

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with the exception of Becky McCauley

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generation of astrobiologist and could

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not travel to the meeting so we're gonna

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start off with talking about exobiology

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their granddaddy of the astrobiology

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the lead the caucus lead for the

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so for in Rose's 18 a couple changes

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that we had in the exobiology program we

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hundred and fifty six proposals

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partially selected one a conditionally

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one hundred and fifty eight proposals

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good job in consistent community I'm

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there will be a bit of a delay in terms

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number of different roses programs so

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appreciate your patience ahead of time

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so in terms of the sort of history you

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may be familiar with a slide that looks

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a lot like this being presented by by

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number of proposals has sort of gone up

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where that missing data point or set of

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data points are and then finally to give

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you just a little bit of an idea of the

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distribution of funded tasks this is how

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they breaks down in sort of the

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different aspects of of the exobiology

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program so this is sort of based on the

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award amounts not necessarily just this

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of those this is bio signatures and life

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evolution of advanced life in the

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biosphere and that sort of dark black

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dark purple large-scale environmental

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change and macro-evolution is the small

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purple wedge and prebiotic evolution is

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that teal wedge you can see the

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difference between the sort of awards

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that we're continuing this year which is

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roughly two years of funding and the new

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awards we currently also fund eight

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nesic awards which will this year be

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replaced by the future investigators in

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technology or finest program and we also

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cover one early career fellow who has

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received startup funding we note there

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is no early career fellowship program in

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groves of 17 or 18 that is planned to be

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replaced by the early career Awards

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program which will come out this year so

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sure the major difference between the

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early career fellowship and the early

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career Awards is that for the early

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career Awards you will be asked to it

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will be limited to folks who have

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already received an award from a rose's

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program so almost any of the roses

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programs are eligible once you have

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received the award you are then eligible

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to apply for the early career Awards

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program we have extended the period that

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is considered early career from seven

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years to ten years post PhD and we've

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allowed for with permission certain

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things or considered certain things

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involving family problems or you know

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other things like that are considered

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reasons for sort of extending that a

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little bit beyond you can find all that

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information in roses and and find out

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also the contact for that is Shoshana

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rather and you can contact her for more

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information about that kind of thing so

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any questions okay you guys there's a

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lot coming up so I'm glad you guys are

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with us and moving through quickly yeah

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the with the I think the the what sorry

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when is finest going to be announced the

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goal I believe is at the end of this

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month or early next month so June 27

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okay June 27th is a current target date

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even though the selections or the

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submissions were due late this year or

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we you know we gave some some leniency

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because of the shutdown our goal is

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still to get them out in in time to get

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funding for the fall semester for

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students any other questions okay thank

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okay I am Matt Schulte I'm the lead of

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the caucus for habitable worlds so just

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a couple of quick slides on habitable

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worlds the most recent call that we have

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data for for habitable worlds is from

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roses 2018 as many of you know it's

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project I think it's the last call for

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the roses cycle in planetary science so

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everything is sort of a little bit

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lagged for habitable worlds for the most

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recent one which was 18 the step ones

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were due in November the step twos were

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originally due in the middle of the

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government shutdown and so because of

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the shutdown the due date for the full

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proposals was moved until the earliest

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possible date allowed by Thomas reppuken

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which was the 29th of March so we got on

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the order of 65 proposals I don't

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remember the exact number that it's

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somewhere between 60 and 70 I don't

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remember the exact number off the top of

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my head which is why 65 is there and so

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we are currently working on the

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evaluation process for those proposals

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we're targeting to have announcements

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for those sometime late summer early

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fall I don't know the exact date yet

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but stay tuned for that so for the roses

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2017 again which is the most recent year

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we have data for there were 46 proposals

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so we've had an increase in the number

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of submissions out of the 46 we selected

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eight which is a 17.4% selection rate

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seven were fully selected one was

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partially selected and one we selected

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that was actually funded by the

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heliophysics division as many of you

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know habitable worlds is what's

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considered to be a cross-disciplinary

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program so we involve astrophysics and

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heliophysics in that process and they

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were actually excited about one of the

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proposals that we got in hab worlds and

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so they select they were actually able

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to fund that so great thanks to them for

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doing that currently we have 21 active

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grants in the program three of those are

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nesaf Awards which are soon to be the

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finest awards

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and we expect to be able to select maybe

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one or two finest from the recent batch

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of them that will be announced

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apparently next week so here are the

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data for habitable worlds as you all

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know this program just began in Rose's

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year 2014 and so you see by solicitation

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here on the x-axis with the number of

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proposals on the y-axis on the left-hand

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side and the selection rate on the

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y-axis on the right-hand side so a

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number of proposals has gone down over

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the years although it's come back up

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again this year so great for you guys

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for submitting more proposals and then

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the selection rate has remained fairly

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steady somewhere between 15 and 20

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percent and we expect that to continue

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and I think that's the last slide I have

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oh and we are always looking for

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reviewers for the program so if anyone

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would like to volunteer for exobiology -

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and Lindsay's raising your hand so if

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you are interested in volunteering

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please send me an email you can find my

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contact information on all the NASA web

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pages that have information about the

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program it does build character as

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Michael's pointed out so and it is a

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very good experience especially for

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early career people who like to get some

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practice and understand what reviewers

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look for in proposals so a great idea to

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sign up to volunteer so let us know

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they're stunned into silence I love it

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okay I think well I think you were very

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nice snitch I was going to say if you

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want to ask us any questions we're

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taking names for reviewers all right I'm

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going to wrap up with well I'm going to

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talk about two remaining programs that

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are related to astrobiology and then

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discuss our new program so I'm one of

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the leads for the Planetary Science and

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Technology through analog research

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program P star it was as you may

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remember before it's the follow-on to a

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step

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NASA is always evolving in terms of the

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research that we solicited in response

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to what we need for our missions and how

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the the science and the fields evolve

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and so P star came out around the same

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time as the reorganization and looks for

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as it describes taking science and

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technology out into the field and analog

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environments and preparing for the as a

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step did the exploration of planetary

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environments so N'Roses 18 it was not

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solicited due to a lack of funding I'm

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sure your lip mate perhaps you may be a

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little alarmed by the low selection

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rates we have a lot of really great

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things that are going on in planetary

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wonderful missions lots of continuing

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Rovers that don't seem to ever want to

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break and which is fantastic

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and of course the cost of science is

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going up and that's not being

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necessarily matched by the amount of

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funding that we're getting and so we're

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doing that we just want you to know

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we're doing the best job that we can we

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don't want to waste anybody's time so P

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Star decided when there really wasn't

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enough funding to make more than maybe

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an eight percent selection rate that it

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wasn't even worth soliciting so the year

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before that and it is solicited this

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year so we're back

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but in roses 17 we got 61 step1

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proposals 11 of them were discouraged

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it's a program that is really important

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to understand and that's why I'm

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describing a little bit more than the

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other ones and that is

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there are three components to

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it's--there's science technology and

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science operations and you must be show

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fidelity to two of those in order to be

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relevant and so if it's just taking an

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instrument out to kind of test it that

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doesn't belong there if it's developing

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an instrument we have other programs for

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that and so it's actually a very feels a

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very special niche we had six proposals

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that were selected that year four were

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related to Mars exploration two related

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to icy worlds and one was selected both

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the Mars exploration program is very

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much related to testing an aspect of an

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instrument that's going to be flown on

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Mars 2020 but in the end we didn't have

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funds to select it and the selection

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rate for this program is twelve point

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eight percent you can see basically what

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our portfolio looks like we have 17

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active grants we have an SF Award which

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is really great we had a graduate

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student associated with some of the work

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that's being done in these analog

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environments and as lindsay mentioned

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that's being replaced by finest so all

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of you that have successfully and i must

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say we are probably one of the most

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engaged and proactive of the disciplines

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in planetary in submitting proposals to

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get support for your graduate students

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so keep it up that's really great

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all right here's the history of p star

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it's been sort of pretty steady and

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again it started right around the time

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of the major reorganization and

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planetary sciences i also want to

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mention planetary protection research

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program has had kind of a unsteady or

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inconsistent past we're trying to get

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that on track that's being led by Becky

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McCauley who I mentioned couldn't make

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it here today or this week unfortunately

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so roses 17 selections were made last

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September and they're basically going to

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be solicited on a biannual trends with

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um a due date again I report on this

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even though it's a separate program

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because many of you that are involved in

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an astrobiology are interested in the

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technology and research that needs to be

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done to prepare missions to to be clean

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enough and to make on the least

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ambiguous measurements possible as we

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search for life on other planets and so

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this is definitely related to our

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community and we hope that all of you

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now that it's gotten back on a regular

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schedule we'll consider proposing to

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this this program in roses 1714

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proposals were submitted five proposals

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were selected for funding to fully and

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three partial funding and the selection

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rate was 35 percent or 36 percent so

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this is a good place to go if this is a

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place if this is the kind of research

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that you're interested in it's a little

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bit more applied or it has it has an

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application that's important to

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exploration so consider that alright and

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this is the wild up and downs of

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planetary protection research and so

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we're hoping to to show in the future a

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steadier cadence for the program and a

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consistent investment in the research so

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many of you are really interested I'm

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hoping and well first so I just want to

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put it have a shout out for the NASA

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Astrobiology Institute and the fact that

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we're celebrating 20 years of amazing

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science

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that organization is completely

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responsible for us being here today for

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building the community for having one of

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the most vibrant early career community

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I've ever seen in my entire life that

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makes the the excitement at this meeting

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so amazing and and attendance so

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desirable I think by many people anybody

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that's introduced to this comes back

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always the next time and so we have two

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sessions to my full sessions tomorrow

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and make sure that you guys know about

550
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:21,060
that to celebrate the accomplishments it

551
00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:24,450
was originally established to start to

552
00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:26,460
really bring researchers together to do

553
00:24:29,150 --> 00:24:28,740
interdisciplinary research and after 20

554
00:24:32,150 --> 00:24:29,160
years

555
00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:32,160
it's a resounding success as I mentioned

556
00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:33,870
we have a fantastic community we get

557
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:35,940
amazing proposals we're really moving

558
00:24:42,020 --> 00:24:38,370
things forward and so then we're looking

559
00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:42,030
forward to the the next step and what's

560
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:44,310
going to follow on the success of the

561
00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:46,890
nei are the astrobiology program

562
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:49,080
research coordination networks which

563
00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:50,400
you're going to hear about in a second

564
00:24:58,370 --> 00:24:56,310
but I would say that the nei did many

565
00:25:01,850 --> 00:24:58,380
many important things and I want to

566
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:01,860
assure you that we're where the plans in

567
00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:03,510
the future to take care of all of those

568
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:05,310
of course they were tremendous in

569
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:08,010
supporting early career researchers that

570
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:09,930
will continue but two very important

571
00:25:14,150 --> 00:25:11,490
things where one was coordinating the

572
00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:14,160
community as I said I think before the

573
00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:17,310
beginning of the nei 20 years ago there

574
00:25:21,290 --> 00:25:19,740
were many disciplines that were involved

575
00:25:24,170 --> 00:25:21,300
in astrobiology research and they were

576
00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:24,180
multidisciplinary in nature to describe

577
00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:26,460
our program so there was some biologists

578
00:25:29,630 --> 00:25:28,230
working here some astronomers that had

579
00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:29,640
something to contribute but the

580
00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:31,380
astrobiology Institute brought these

581
00:25:36,290 --> 00:25:33,480
people together and we started having

582
00:25:39,230 --> 00:25:36,300
truly interdisciplinary research

583
00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:39,240
programs come out of that so that

584
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:41,430
coordination of researchers is essential

585
00:25:46,790 --> 00:25:43,770
and the job isn't done that needs to be

586
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,800
continued and so what what is happening

587
00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:48,480
in the future with the RC ends as we're

588
00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:50,340
looking to not only coordinate ourselves

589
00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:52,200
because that's basically took 20 years I

590
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:55,320
think for us to get well coordinated and

591
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:57,210
now we need to start reaching out and

592
00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:00,480
interacting with the sister divisions in

593
00:26:04,450 --> 00:26:02,590
SMD because

594
00:26:07,330 --> 00:26:04,460
astrobiology and the search for life

595
00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:07,340
beyond Earth really encompasses all

596
00:26:13,389 --> 00:26:09,620
division it's it's actually one of the

597
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:13,399
three focuses for the all of the science

598
00:26:16,749 --> 00:26:15,049
Mission Directorate and in order to

599
00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:16,759
really accomplish that we have to start

600
00:26:20,139 --> 00:26:18,740
working with researchers from those

601
00:26:21,970 --> 00:26:20,149
other divisions and that's one of the

602
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:21,980
reasons at least one of our colleagues

603
00:26:25,659 --> 00:26:24,110
Doug Hudgens is here he's down here in

604
00:26:28,570 --> 00:26:25,669
the front and the red very easy to spot

605
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:28,580
an astrophysicist that is responsible

606
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:32,570
for exoplanet research in the agency and

607
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:34,730
so to facilitate that we have the our

608
00:26:38,259 --> 00:26:36,049
sensors we're going to talk about in a

609
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:38,269
second but most people most people are

610
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:40,490
most important to them is thinking about

611
00:26:44,860 --> 00:26:41,809
where the funding is going to come from

612
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:44,870
and so the other thing that the nei did

613
00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:47,120
it was it provides stable support for

614
00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:50,750
five years for large teams with fairly

615
00:26:55,629 --> 00:26:52,789
large budgets so between a million to

616
00:26:57,490 --> 00:26:55,639
two million a year for five years I

617
00:26:59,619 --> 00:26:57,500
think that it's it's very clear that

618
00:27:02,289 --> 00:26:59,629
that's kind of funding is essential for

619
00:27:05,019 --> 00:27:02,299
some research prob problems in

620
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:05,029
astrobiology and so the portfolio

621
00:27:10,749 --> 00:27:08,240
funding will continue to be the there'll

622
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:10,759
be opportunities for single researchers

623
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,610
to get single investigator Awards as

624
00:27:18,249 --> 00:27:16,000
well as these multi or interdisciplinary

625
00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:18,259
projects that can be funded at a larger

626
00:27:23,379 --> 00:27:20,870
scale so the new program is called I car

627
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:23,389
I wanted it to be I care but people

628
00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:26,080
thought that was too corny but I do care

629
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:28,840
and it stands for interdisciplinary

630
00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:31,690
consortium for us to biology research

631
00:27:35,470 --> 00:27:33,830
the details are here and I should

632
00:27:37,060 --> 00:27:35,480
actually mention to you the slides that

633
00:27:40,269 --> 00:27:37,070
were showing tonight were part of a

634
00:27:42,009 --> 00:27:40,279
presentation that was made to caps the

635
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:42,019
Committee on astrobiology and Planetary

636
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:44,090
Science it's the standing subcommittee

637
00:27:48,009 --> 00:27:46,610
of the Space Studies board the national

638
00:27:50,860 --> 00:27:48,019
academy of science engineering and

639
00:27:53,259 --> 00:27:50,870
medicine it's featured online so you can

640
00:27:55,749 --> 00:27:53,269
actually find it if you go to their past

641
00:27:57,730 --> 00:27:55,759
meetings and look for presentations so

642
00:27:59,289 --> 00:27:57,740
any of this stuff you can find if you

643
00:28:00,940 --> 00:27:59,299
want to consult it for any of the

644
00:28:04,869 --> 00:28:00,950
information about the programs or this

645
00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:04,879
description so the the proposals that

646
00:28:08,499 --> 00:28:07,070
are we're looking for in i-car should

647
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:08,509
describe an interdisciplinary approach

648
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:10,610
to a single compelling question and ask

649
00:28:15,249 --> 00:28:13,279
to biology it can address a single

650
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:15,259
science strategy goal or several science

651
00:28:21,070 --> 00:28:15,530
strat

652
00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:21,080
giggles together a step one proposal is

653
00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:23,900
required and that step one proposal is

654
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:27,350
binding we do this again I'm very much

655
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:30,530
in favor of not wasting your time

656
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:31,850
letting you know if it's what we're

657
00:28:37,030 --> 00:28:34,190
looking for if you hit the mark and so

658
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:37,040
there'll be a five page proposal pre

659
00:28:42,130 --> 00:28:39,310
proposal basically do for the step one

660
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:42,140
and we will make a decision to encourage

661
00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:46,010
or discourage those proposals just that

662
00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:47,990
you know there's no ideal size of an IKE

663
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:51,470
our team the scope but the key to the to

664
00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:53,150
these proposals are the scope of the

665
00:28:57,130 --> 00:28:54,950
research and the resources that you

666
00:29:01,960 --> 00:28:57,140
request whether it be people or money

667
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:01,970
should-should in general be larger than

668
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,290
what is typically considered in a

669
00:29:08,110 --> 00:29:05,600
research up a roses call for the other

670
00:29:10,390 --> 00:29:08,120
program elements otherwise you should go

671
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:10,400
to exobiology or you should go to

672
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:12,710
habitable worlds so we expect them to be

673
00:29:16,510 --> 00:29:14,810
larger than that and as always you know

674
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:16,520
for those of you that have reviewed you

675
00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:20,960
ask for what you need and and and if it

676
00:29:26,020 --> 00:29:22,940
long as it match it's the right size

677
00:29:29,950 --> 00:29:26,030
it's the right amount they're expected

678
00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:29,960
to cost about six hundred thousand to a

679
00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:32,900
thousand or to up well six hundred

680
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:35,180
thousand to a million dollars per year

681
00:29:41,470 --> 00:29:38,120
they'll last for five years and the

682
00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:41,480
whole point of i-car is to feed into the

683
00:29:46,810 --> 00:29:44,840
RC ends so proposals to this program

684
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:46,820
element that are awarded and funding

685
00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:48,410
will become automatically become members

686
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:51,470
of the newly established astrobiology RC

687
00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:54,530
ends in terms of membership beyond that

688
00:30:00,760 --> 00:29:58,190
so the RC ends are now not just teams

689
00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:00,770
that are selected from this solicitation

690
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:03,200
but teams are so that are selected or

691
00:30:08,050 --> 00:30:05,510
proposals that are selected from all

692
00:30:11,050 --> 00:30:08,060
participating programs so that's every

693
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:11,060
single program in astrobiology

694
00:30:15,250 --> 00:30:13,970
it's Picasso and Matisse which are you

695
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,260
know so it's what you've just heard from

696
00:30:22,050 --> 00:30:18,320
its planetary protection P star XO have

697
00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:22,060
worlds it's going to be open to

698
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:26,030
technologies so Picasso and Matisse it's

699
00:30:31,570 --> 00:30:28,730
going to include calls from other

700
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:31,580
divisions as well and you'll have the

701
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:34,210
opportunity to self-select for

702
00:30:44,830 --> 00:30:39,410
membership to the to these networks so

703
00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:44,840
that's the funding part of it the four

704
00:30:52,210 --> 00:30:47,630
this year the areas that we're gonna

705
00:30:54,780 --> 00:30:52,220
solicit for our three of the are CNS one

706
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:54,790
is nexus for exoplanet system science

707
00:30:59,470 --> 00:30:57,890
that's the oldest of the RCN the second

708
00:31:02,289 --> 00:30:59,480
one is prebiotic chemistry and early

709
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:02,299
Earth environments PCE three and the

710
00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:03,770
third one is from early cells to

711
00:31:08,049 --> 00:31:06,500
multicellularity this RCN has not been

712
00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:08,059
established yet but part of the

713
00:31:12,010 --> 00:31:09,320
establishment is going to be the

714
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:12,020
solicitation of proposals in this

715
00:31:17,230 --> 00:31:15,710
particular area for the other RC ends

716
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:17,240
you'll notice that people are wearing

717
00:31:24,370 --> 00:31:19,850
ribbons asked me about Nexus asked me

718
00:31:26,590 --> 00:31:24,380
about PC e3 next this is yellow yeah is

719
00:31:30,730 --> 00:31:26,600
yellow PC three is orange

720
00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:30,740
now the ocean worlds is blue and unfold

721
00:31:36,580 --> 00:31:34,760
is green for life and so please after

722
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:36,590
you're gonna hear from them now in fact

723
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:38,090
actually you guys want to think about

724
00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:41,809
coming on up here soon but you can be

725
00:31:46,299 --> 00:31:44,750
sure that please feel free to ask them

726
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:46,309
anytime you see them during the rest of

727
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:50,510
the week this is the timeline the nm so

728
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:52,070
there's a placeholder that came out to

729
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:53,690
let people know that this was coming you

730
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,370
may have gotten that if you didn't get

731
00:31:59,140 --> 00:31:56,960
the notification then you're not signed

732
00:32:02,260 --> 00:31:59,150
up for notifications and inspires and

733
00:32:03,549 --> 00:32:02,270
you should because that's where that's

734
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:03,559
the way people learn about the latest

735
00:32:10,060 --> 00:32:07,450
greatest that's happening in roses calls

736
00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:10,070
the actual official announcement will

737
00:32:15,370 --> 00:32:13,070
come out July 30th on or about the step1

738
00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:15,380
proposals will be due September 26th and

739
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:17,990
the step two proposals we do January 7th

740
00:32:23,470 --> 00:32:20,450
and 2020 and then we hope to process

741
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:23,480
them relatively quickly and make awards

742
00:32:32,049 --> 00:32:29,570
very in that first quarter of 2020 if

743
00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:32,059
you want more information about anything

744
00:32:36,669 --> 00:32:34,100
that we've talked about here or about a

745
00:32:38,830 --> 00:32:36,679
car in particular we spent a lot of time

746
00:32:40,539 --> 00:32:38,840
last fall and this was being decided and

747
00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:40,549
we were transitioning and

748
00:32:45,969 --> 00:32:43,339
the arsons so there's an astrobiology

749
00:32:48,489 --> 00:32:45,979
program FAQ it's about 23 pages of

750
00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:48,499
frequently asked questions that you

751
00:32:53,529 --> 00:32:50,479
asked that we asked that everyone asked

752
00:32:55,810 --> 00:32:53,539
us if you don't find your answer there

753
00:32:58,449 --> 00:32:55,820
please contact us and you'll likely get

754
00:33:00,159 --> 00:32:58,459
your name on the hall-of-fame of new fa

755
00:33:03,219 --> 00:33:00,169
Q's because we want to keep letting

756
00:33:04,899 --> 00:33:03,229
people know what's going on and so again

757
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:04,909
you can look there for some of this I

758
00:33:08,949 --> 00:33:06,950
also just want to before I talk about

759
00:33:10,779 --> 00:33:08,959
the arsons in particular just want to

760
00:33:12,430 --> 00:33:10,789
call out the astrobiology postdoctoral

761
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:12,440
program I said we're still committed to

762
00:33:17,889 --> 00:33:14,570
early career development and training

763
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:17,899
and it will continue it has it's part of

764
00:33:24,729 --> 00:33:21,609
the program and it's related to any

765
00:33:28,749 --> 00:33:24,739
funded proposal in any of the programs

766
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:28,759
that astrobiology supports and so it's

767
00:33:34,959 --> 00:33:32,450
available to ppis that want that receive

768
00:33:38,709 --> 00:33:34,969
proposals are before funded proposals

769
00:33:41,289 --> 00:33:38,719
from have worlds from exobiology from

770
00:33:45,249 --> 00:33:41,299
ike are those will be the opportunities

771
00:33:46,989 --> 00:33:45,259
that postdocs can apply to and that will

772
00:33:50,709 --> 00:33:46,999
continue and just to let you know since

773
00:33:53,129 --> 00:33:50,719
2000 we've had 108 PhDs or postdoc

774
00:33:57,009 --> 00:33:53,139
scientists and engineers that have been

775
00:33:58,810 --> 00:33:57,019
supported and there's a little bit about

776
00:34:02,139 --> 00:33:58,820
the history of it began and then it

777
00:34:04,779 --> 00:34:02,149
expanded in 2010 and it will continue to

778
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:04,789
go on it's a very important part of our

779
00:34:11,470 --> 00:34:08,690
program and keeps it really vibrant ok

780
00:34:15,399 --> 00:34:11,480
so before I actually get into this I'm

781
00:34:17,339 --> 00:34:15,409
just going to ask Michael so come up

782
00:34:21,490 --> 00:34:17,349
come up

783
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:21,500
so I listed him as an emeritus so this

784
00:34:24,849 --> 00:34:23,359
is an opportunity for y'all to say bye

785
00:34:26,019 --> 00:34:24,859
we missed you but you're glad we're

786
00:34:32,669 --> 00:34:26,029
you're glad you're he's here at this

787
00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:34,490
[Applause]

788
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:38,950
my new role yes so hi some of you may

789
00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:42,730
remember me not too long ago I was the

790
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:44,470
program officer for exobiology and

791
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:46,720
longer ago than that I was the firm

792
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:52,450
officer for Ystad I have moved on not

793
00:34:57,060 --> 00:34:55,570
very far though so I'm currently the

794
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,070
deputy associate administrator for

795
00:35:04,490 --> 00:34:59,440
research in science Mission Directorate

796
00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:04,500
that means I'm broadly responsible for

797
00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:07,630
policies and processes for all

798
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:14,020
SMD solicitations both grants and AOS so

799
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:16,780
if you see me at a review or something

800
00:35:24,270 --> 00:35:18,850
like that that means something's gone

801
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:24,280
really pear-shaped now the subtitle of

802
00:35:29,550 --> 00:35:26,950
my job is my is keeping Thomas turbo

803
00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:29,560
from the SMD so she administrator out of

804
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:34,020
jail so now you know what I do most days

805
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:36,610
I just wanted to mention three things

806
00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:39,760
that are going on at the SMD level above

807
00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:42,070
the astrobiology program level about the

808
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:43,660
planetary science or astrophysics

809
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:46,210
Division level that I think will be

810
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:50,380
interesting to you so the first is some

811
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:51,910
of you may know that a couple of you

812
00:35:57,870 --> 00:35:53,670
like two years ago a year and a half ago

813
00:35:59,310 --> 00:35:57,880
we started asking our reviewers to

814
00:36:02,460 --> 00:35:59,320
comment on whether they thought the

815
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:02,470
proposals they were seeing constituted

816
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:05,440
proposals of high intellectual risk and

817
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:08,650
high potential impact now by

818
00:36:12,690 --> 00:36:10,290
intellectual risk we were talking about

819
00:36:16,350 --> 00:36:12,700
we weren't talking about whether the

820
00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:16,360
experiments would work or not Thomas and

821
00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:17,560
serve often likes to describe

822
00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:21,180
intellectual risk as reputational risk

823
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:24,820
you know you submit a idea that could

824
00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:26,310
get you laughed out of your job

825
00:36:32,610 --> 00:36:30,550
basically what we found was surprisingly

826
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:32,620
I have to admit about 10% of our

827
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:34,210
proposals that we were getting across

828
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:35,950
all of SMD were considered high risk

829
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:39,790
high impact more interestingly and more

830
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:42,610
surprisingly high impact high risk

831
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:44,770
proposals were selected at a rate of

832
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:48,130
about 35% the selection rate across all

833
00:36:56,850 --> 00:36:51,490
of SMD for all of the roses programs is

834
00:37:00,180 --> 00:36:56,860
about 24% so clearly the culture of our

835
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:00,190
reviewers is such that we are evaluating

836
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:04,000
well and solicited and sorry selecting

837
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:07,360
high-impact high-risk proposals but we

838
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:08,890
can't just pat ourselves on the back

839
00:37:13,470 --> 00:37:11,890
because as I said only about 10% of the

840
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:13,480
proposals we receive are high risk and

841
00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:15,610
high impact which means that there are

842
00:37:20,850 --> 00:37:18,220
probably a lot more high risk high

843
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:20,860
impact ideas germinating in your heads

844
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,490
out there than we ever see so one of the

845
00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:26,320
things we are working on at the SMD

846
00:37:32,190 --> 00:37:29,470
level is to try to fix that not fix it

847
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:32,200
but improve it so we are right now I

848
00:37:39,570 --> 00:37:35,730
mean literally like last week discussing

849
00:37:41,790 --> 00:37:39,580
how to encourage more high risk

850
00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:41,800
high-impact proposals to be submitted

851
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:45,430
how to better evaluate them and how to

852
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:49,170
encourage their selection so stay tuned

853
00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:52,480
nothing has been set in stone yet the

854
00:37:57,390 --> 00:37:55,060
some of the considerations though are we

855
00:38:01,860 --> 00:37:57,400
don't want to increase the workload on

856
00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:01,870
you proposers on you reviewers and on

857
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:05,560
ourselves as program officers so don't

858
00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:09,310
expect some giant new thing it will most

859
00:38:15,330 --> 00:38:13,240
likely be an adaptation of current

860
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:15,340
processes but stay tuned we'll be

861
00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:16,690
talking a lot more about it once we

862
00:38:23,070 --> 00:38:18,460
figure out what we're gonna be talking

863
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:23,080
about so the second thing I'd like to

864
00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:25,210
talk a little bit about is something

865
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:27,430
that astrobiology the astrobiology

866
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:29,410
community has down which is

867
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:32,320
interdisciplinary research so

868
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:34,090
astrobiology is fundamentally

869
00:38:40,650 --> 00:38:35,680
interdisciplinary it's been called the

870
00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:40,660
trans discipline a lot of the rest of

871
00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:42,670
what SMD has done historically has not

872
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:44,670
been so interdisciplinary

873
00:38:51,020 --> 00:38:47,290
Thomas sir Brooklyn is very interested

874
00:38:54,010 --> 00:38:51,030
in both interdisciplinary research and

875
00:38:59,020 --> 00:38:54,020
research that cuts across

876
00:39:01,780 --> 00:38:59,030
visional stovepipes so the recent meant

877
00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:01,790
toward an all SMD version of the

878
00:39:06,730 --> 00:39:04,670
exoplanet research program led by Doug

879
00:39:12,610 --> 00:39:06,740
and Steve Reinhart and Melissa Morris

880
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:12,620
and Martin still is part of that the Hat

881
00:39:17,470 --> 00:39:14,750
will be cutting across ultimately all

882
00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:17,480
four divisions trying to find the best

883
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:19,580
proposals related to exoplanet science

884
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:24,160
that also satisfy other divisional goals

885
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,090
but that's only like one thing right so

886
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:31,520
we are in the process of beginning of

887
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:33,710
talking about other opportunities

888
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:35,530
sometimes there are cross-cutting

889
00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:38,990
science goals so the maven mission which

890
00:39:45,580 --> 00:39:41,540
was looking at atmospheric escape from

891
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:45,590
Mars has direct implications for some

892
00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:48,290
exoplanet science and also addresses

893
00:39:52,210 --> 00:39:50,180
some goals that the heliophysics

894
00:39:55,780 --> 00:39:52,220
division would have liked to have seen

895
00:39:58,210 --> 00:39:55,790
done on earth and elsewhere so there are

896
00:40:01,300 --> 00:39:58,220
those kinds of cross-cutting synergies

897
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:01,310
but then there's also an instances where

898
00:40:05,530 --> 00:40:02,930
you just want to throw an instrument on

899
00:40:07,570 --> 00:40:05,540
somebody else's spacecraft so if you

900
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:07,580
were here on sunday and went through the

901
00:40:12,430 --> 00:40:09,710
EXO pag you might have heard somebody

902
00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:12,440
talking about wanting to put a telescope

903
00:40:17,230 --> 00:40:14,630
on the back of some planetary spacecraft

904
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:17,240
that's going pretty far out there in

905
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,650
order to turn around take a look and

906
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:20,960
measure the diag alike our own zodiacal

907
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:23,570
light so that's another category of

908
00:40:29,350 --> 00:40:26,210
interdivisional work over the next year

909
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:29,360
or so we're going to be at SMD thinking

910
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:32,200
really hard about how to do this and

911
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:35,510
probably asking a lot of questions

912
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:40,910
this may culminate in trying to get the

913
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:42,650
National Academies to do a sort of

914
00:40:49,690 --> 00:40:46,310
decade-old survey of dakedo surveys kind

915
00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:49,700
of thing looking for these synergies and

916
00:40:55,390 --> 00:40:53,420
cross-cutting themes that's not set in

917
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:55,400
stone yet but it is something we are

918
00:41:02,070 --> 00:40:58,400
talking about the third and final thing

919
00:41:06,010 --> 00:41:02,080
I'd like to talk about briefly is issu

920
00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:06,020
efforts we're making at SMD for to

921
00:41:10,029 --> 00:41:07,369
increase our diverse

922
00:41:12,730 --> 00:41:10,039
the inclusion and accessibility of our

923
00:41:14,859 --> 00:41:12,740
programs and the flip side of that of

924
00:41:18,249 --> 00:41:14,869
course is unfortunately anti harassment

925
00:41:21,069 --> 00:41:18,259
and anti-discrimination we've been doing

926
00:41:23,859 --> 00:41:21,079
a lot of that work in the last two years

927
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:23,869
and I talked to me if you'd like to hear

928
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:25,970
more details the one thing I do want to

929
00:41:30,220 --> 00:41:27,650
say is we've one of the things we've

930
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:30,230
looked at is the composition of compete

931
00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:33,410
admission science teams over the last 10

932
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:37,670
or 15 years and we are trying to make

933
00:41:44,819 --> 00:41:41,690
that easier to broaden participation so

934
00:41:48,730 --> 00:41:44,829
we had in November last year we had a

935
00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:48,740
initial toe dip we had a workshop on p.i

936
00:41:55,210 --> 00:41:52,670
diversity which surfaced a number of

937
00:41:58,450 --> 00:41:55,220
issues that led to some of the actions

938
00:42:00,339 --> 00:41:58,460
we've taken another one of the things

939
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:00,349
we've discovered is that unless you're

940
00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:02,930
at a gateway institution so a NASA

941
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:07,700
Center JPL APL query last places like

942
00:42:13,749 --> 00:42:10,490
that you may never have been exposed to

943
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:13,759
Mission culture to Mission terminology

944
00:42:18,789 --> 00:42:16,609
you may have no idea what takes to go

945
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:18,799
from a cocktail napkin to a piece of

946
00:42:25,089 --> 00:42:21,880
metal flying in orbit around Jupiter and

947
00:42:27,729 --> 00:42:25,099
so we've started developing training

948
00:42:31,539 --> 00:42:27,739
programs for people the first thing we

949
00:42:33,609 --> 00:42:31,549
did was mmm I guess it was like four

950
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:33,619
weeks ago we did a two-and-a-half-hour

951
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:36,640
Telekom til 20 half-hour telecast

952
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:39,849
webcast from University of Colorado

953
00:42:45,870 --> 00:42:42,650
where most of it was Thomas or Brooklyn

954
00:42:49,259 --> 00:42:45,880
and a little bit of me talking about

955
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:49,269
statistically what we know about our

956
00:42:55,210 --> 00:42:52,970
RPI's and their teams and anecdotally

957
00:43:01,779 --> 00:42:55,220
what we know from Thomas's experience on

958
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:01,789
five proposals I think it's online and I

959
00:43:05,710 --> 00:43:03,680
recommend if you're interested in maybe

960
00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:05,720
one day becoming a PI of a mission you

961
00:43:10,509 --> 00:43:08,630
take a look at it the other thing we're

962
00:43:13,210 --> 00:43:10,519
next thing we're doing is we are working

963
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:13,220
with dr. Erica Hamden

964
00:43:17,830 --> 00:43:15,730
from University of Arizona and the

965
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:17,840
heisting Science Foundation and we're

966
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:19,010
going to be putting on a two and a half

967
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:23,210
day workshop in I think it's it's in the

968
00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:24,160
fall

969
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:27,950
October November two and a half days to

970
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,040
talk about going from a basic science

971
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,440
question to what the next steps are

972
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:35,359
it'll be more interactive there'll be

973
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:37,910
some networking opportunities and so on

974
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:41,630
we have a mailing list that's been set

975
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:45,650
up and we'll be announcing when and

976
00:43:52,810 --> 00:43:49,040
where and how and what soon we're not

977
00:43:54,910 --> 00:43:52,820
opening up applications for this yet

978
00:43:58,780 --> 00:43:54,920
because we are in the process of hiring

979
00:44:01,480 --> 00:43:58,790
a stem equity expert to help us make

980
00:44:04,089 --> 00:44:01,490
sure we have a deep and broad reach into

981
00:44:05,530 --> 00:44:04,099
the science community so those are some

982
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:05,540
things that we're working on at the SMD

983
00:44:12,970 --> 00:44:08,750
level I'm really happy to be back

984
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:12,980
amongst my people if you have questions

985
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:15,170
just either ask them now or bother me

986
00:44:25,390 --> 00:44:16,730
later today or the rest of the week I

987
00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:26,950
[Applause]

988
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,630
okay we're gonna take some time to have

989
00:44:34,339 --> 00:44:32,640
the one of the leads from each of the

990
00:44:36,019 --> 00:44:34,349
arsons that have been established to

991
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:36,029
talk about exactly what they are

992
00:44:40,849 --> 00:44:39,359
here the RCN Olympic rings and we're

993
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:40,859
going to start it off with Nexus the

994
00:44:52,130 --> 00:44:50,880
oldest of the RC ends all right so Nexus

995
00:44:53,479 --> 00:44:52,140
is going first because we were kind of

996
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:53,489
the prototype of this research

997
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:54,960
coordination network and we've been

998
00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:57,450
around for over three years so I will go

999
00:45:01,729 --> 00:44:58,680
very quickly because we don't have a lot

1000
00:45:03,049 --> 00:45:01,739
of time left but what is Nexus we're an

1001
00:45:04,729 --> 00:45:03,059
interdisciplinary research coordination

1002
00:45:08,180 --> 00:45:04,739
network we're specifically put together

1003
00:45:09,979 --> 00:45:08,190
to have an interdisciplinary focus on

1004
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:09,989
exoplanets and understanding what we can

1005
00:45:14,329 --> 00:45:11,609
do when we get different disciplines

1006
00:45:16,910 --> 00:45:14,339
across SMD to work together on

1007
00:45:18,829 --> 00:45:16,920
understanding the planet obviously the

1008
00:45:20,029 --> 00:45:18,839
planet forms it evolves and interacts

1009
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,039
with its star interacts with other

1010
00:45:23,989 --> 00:45:22,319
planets in the system very much to

1011
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:23,999
understand that you need to understand a

1012
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:26,720
lot from the different divisions of SMD

1013
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,089
we have about 34 pis at the moment in

1014
00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:32,160
Nexus and they are selected from a range

1015
00:45:37,549 --> 00:45:34,200
of programs going from the former nai

1016
00:45:39,499 --> 00:45:37,559
all the way through to sort of XR p-type

1017
00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:39,509
proposals smaller proposals so small and

1018
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:41,940
large mix together but all working

1019
00:45:47,209 --> 00:45:45,089
together so what we do in Nexus is we

1020
00:45:49,370 --> 00:45:47,219
you know a group of PI's

1021
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,380
we do our own research that's funded

1022
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:51,119
under our respective programs but we

1023
00:45:54,709 --> 00:45:52,890
also come together to try and think of

1024
00:45:57,380 --> 00:45:54,719
really important things that we can do

1025
00:45:59,989 --> 00:45:57,390
as a community of researchers to advance

1026
00:46:01,279 --> 00:45:59,999
our science and to potentially put

1027
00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:01,289
products and things out there that we

1028
00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:03,150
need so I won't go through these slides

1029
00:46:06,739 --> 00:46:04,859
in detail but just to say that we have

1030
00:46:08,359 --> 00:46:06,749
sort of a series of goals on which we

1031
00:46:09,859 --> 00:46:08,369
try to meet and I'll try and highlight

1032
00:46:11,989 --> 00:46:09,869
specific things that we've done there

1033
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:11,999
that our Nexus activities so if we go to

1034
00:46:16,459 --> 00:46:14,190
to develop programs for existing space

1035
00:46:17,930 --> 00:46:16,469
telescopes and for NASA facilities that

1036
00:46:20,890 --> 00:46:17,940
something we obviously want to do tying

1037
00:46:23,329 --> 00:46:20,900
into to the NASA missions one of our

1038
00:46:24,709 --> 00:46:23,339
activities was to put together an early

1039
00:46:26,650 --> 00:46:24,719
release science proposal by the

1040
00:46:29,299 --> 00:46:26,660
community I had massive participation

1041
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:29,309
from the Nexus consortium and also from

1042
00:46:33,979 --> 00:46:31,680
international collaborators we were able

1043
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:33,989
to win about 23% of the total allotted

1044
00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:36,960
early release science time from JWST

1045
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:37,720
with that

1046
00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:39,310
collaborative effort that was sparked

1047
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:41,830
and organized by Nexus

1048
00:46:47,070 --> 00:46:45,490
we've also our our team members you know

1049
00:46:49,710 --> 00:46:47,080
work on their science and have input to

1050
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:49,720
the the mission concept so we impact it

1051
00:46:53,490 --> 00:46:52,000
there and I think one of the the most

1052
00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:53,500
important activities that we've done is

1053
00:46:58,770 --> 00:46:55,030
something that was led by Sean and Nicky

1054
00:47:00,330 --> 00:46:58,780
and Nancy King is this biosignatures

1055
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:00,340
workshop that we put together where we

1056
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:02,410
again brought disciplines together in an

1057
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,960
in-person and remote workshop it we put

1058
00:47:09,390 --> 00:47:06,400
the work back into workshop and that

1059
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:09,400
workshop resulted in six seminal papers

1060
00:47:13,290 --> 00:47:11,290
that sort of surveyed the entire field

1061
00:47:16,170 --> 00:47:13,300
and thought about new directions and

1062
00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:16,180
those biosignatures then fed into the

1063
00:47:21,570 --> 00:47:19,300
NES Takeda reviews and also had an

1064
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:21,580
impact there as well so that's kind of

1065
00:47:26,190 --> 00:47:23,170
an example of the sort of things that we

1066
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:26,200
can do as a community when we take the

1067
00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:28,090
time to not only do our research but

1068
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:29,980
also look out to the community and think

1069
00:47:34,349 --> 00:47:32,170
about community focused activities that

1070
00:47:36,450 --> 00:47:34,359
we can do to advance our research so I

1071
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:36,460
will hand over to earn one of our

1072
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:40,030
siblings oh yes sorry

1073
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:42,070
there's also posters on all of the RC

1074
00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:43,690
ends and they're at the back of the

1075
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,550
poster hall so if you want to learn more

1076
00:47:48,839 --> 00:47:47,200
about the individual icn's or what we're

1077
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:48,849
doing there's loads more stats and info

1078
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,410
on those posters and you have time to

1079
00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:52,720
look at those at leisure if you want to

1080
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:54,190
learn anything about Nexus just find

1081
00:48:08,630 --> 00:47:55,810
someone with the yellow ribbon and ask

1082
00:48:14,030 --> 00:48:11,750
all right so enfold in three minutes the

1083
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:14,040
network for life detection this is the

1084
00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:16,640
second RCN that's been rolled out their

1085
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:19,470
ideas to be a multi institution research

1086
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:21,510
coordination network focused on

1087
00:48:26,990 --> 00:48:23,850
developing technologies and techniques

1088
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:27,000
for life detection on other worlds I'm

1089
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:29,130
speaking on behalf of my co leads Torre

1090
00:48:34,820 --> 00:48:31,130
Jolla and Brittany Schmidt who are here

1091
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:34,830
we have Lindsay who is somewhere who's

1092
00:48:39,290 --> 00:48:37,050
our NASA headquarters representative on

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00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:39,300
enfold we have a steering committee

1094
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:42,930
these RPI's of relevant roses proposals

1095
00:48:47,630 --> 00:48:45,690
XO have worlds P star Matisse and

1096
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:47,640
Picasso that have been invited by

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00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:49,740
headquarters to to join the steering

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00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:52,050
committee the membership is involving

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00:48:55,660 --> 00:48:54,150
that Co investigators and collaborators

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00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:55,670
on the lead in steering committee

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00:49:01,010 --> 00:48:58,770
projects and participation is active

1102
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:01,020
engagement with the broader community of

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00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:02,370
life detection researchers and

1104
00:49:06,980 --> 00:49:04,140
technologists and I'll talk about some

1105
00:49:09,710 --> 00:49:06,990
of our activities here in a second but

1106
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:09,720
first wanted to recognize our steering

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00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:12,330
committee members so these were folks

1108
00:49:17,090 --> 00:49:14,850
that were invited to join shortly after

1109
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:17,100
the shutdown we've had two in persons

1110
00:49:21,230 --> 00:49:19,140
during a sorry to virtual steering

1111
00:49:24,650 --> 00:49:21,240
committee meetings and we'll have an

1112
00:49:26,650 --> 00:49:24,660
in-person one tomorrow 23 members and

1113
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:26,660
you can see we cover this wide array of

1114
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:29,010
different disciplines folks working on

1115
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:32,010
exoplanets Mars Earth ocean worlds a lot

1116
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,140
of mission participants as well as well

1117
00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:36,480
as this whole array of different you

1118
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:41,070
know specific disciplines of study the

1119
00:49:46,310 --> 00:49:43,410
core objectives that we've outlined so

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00:49:48,410 --> 00:49:46,320
far first to collaborate to investigate

1121
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:48,420
life detection strategies including bio

1122
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:50,510
signature creation and preservation

1123
00:49:54,820 --> 00:49:52,770
second to facilitate work between

1124
00:49:57,950 --> 00:49:54,830
scientists and engineers to develop

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00:50:00,320 --> 00:49:57,960
technologies and tools third to actively

1126
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:00,330
and inclusively engage the scientific

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00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:02,850
community next to cultivate

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00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,800
interdisciplinary multi-organizational

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00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:07,200
initiatives this I think is also really

1130
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:09,420
important organizing reference standards

1131
00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:11,730
and helping define life detection

1132
00:50:15,830 --> 00:50:14,430
standards coordinating community

1133
00:50:17,810 --> 00:50:15,840
engagement with the ladder of life

1134
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,820
detection incorporating ideas of

1135
00:50:20,750 --> 00:50:19,680
agnostic bio signatures and different

1136
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:20,760
features of

1137
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:23,040
Smita incompetence working with missions

1138
00:50:26,930 --> 00:50:24,960
because of course we want to translate

1139
00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:26,940
all of these great concepts to actual

1140
00:50:32,260 --> 00:50:29,190
missions for life detection and then

1141
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:32,270
cross-cutting training and education and

1142
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,530
just want to say we've these just

1143
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:36,480
outlined some of our early activities

1144
00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:38,640
we've got a website you should visit it

1145
00:50:45,470 --> 00:50:41,190
early and often it's quickly evolving

1146
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:45,480
it's wwm fol org you can find the

1147
00:50:48,830 --> 00:50:47,220
steering committee and project profiles

1148
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:48,840
there this is a place we hope to be able

1149
00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:51,330
to post a lot of upcoming events we've

1150
00:50:56,570 --> 00:50:53,220
got a Twitter handle haven't tweeted yet

1151
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:56,580
but it will be at life detection and

1152
00:51:00,350 --> 00:50:58,410
also we've got a Contact Us page and

1153
00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:00,360
we've been taking that really seriously

1154
00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:02,070
we've had dozens of people indicate an

1155
00:51:06,050 --> 00:51:04,440
interest in becoming involved in info

1156
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:06,060
white papers and working groups and

1157
00:51:09,830 --> 00:51:07,890
we're keeping tabs of all of that so if

1158
00:51:11,450 --> 00:51:09,840
you're whether you're an early career

1159
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,460
person or somebody who's been working in

1160
00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:13,200
life detection for 30 years you know

1161
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:15,840
please don't hesitate to fill out that

1162
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:17,490
form so we know that you're interested

1163
00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:20,400
in becoming engaged we've also got it's

1164
00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:22,500
a very beta version at this point but a

1165
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:25,140
map of field work locations to help

1166
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,810
facilitate coordination and sample

1167
00:51:32,570 --> 00:51:29,520
sharing open to everybody in the

1168
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:32,580
community at job posting forum that

1169
00:51:35,780 --> 00:51:34,170
we've already started up so if you've

1170
00:51:37,460 --> 00:51:35,790
got jobs that are related to life

1171
00:51:39,790 --> 00:51:37,470
detection please just let us know we'd

1172
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:39,800
be more than happy to advertise them

1173
00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:42,540
we've been working on as workshops and

1174
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:43,740
working groups that are going to be

1175
00:51:49,090 --> 00:51:46,710
important for us the grayness of life

1176
00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:49,100
workshop this idea of looking between

1177
00:51:53,540 --> 00:51:51,720
prebiotic bio signatures and what we

1178
00:51:55,340 --> 00:51:53,550
think of as traditional bio signatures

1179
00:51:58,220 --> 00:51:55,350
is going to be one of our first enfold

1180
00:52:01,010 --> 00:51:58,230
workshops looking at October time lane

1181
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:01,020
hosted by the Santa Fe Institute will

1182
00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:02,400
have other virtual and in-person

1183
00:52:06,650 --> 00:52:04,920
workshops to follow we're spending up a

1184
00:52:09,980 --> 00:52:06,660
few working groups here you can see some

1185
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:09,990
of the early ones listed something not

1186
00:52:13,310 --> 00:52:10,890
to be missed

1187
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:13,320
Tory Ola and everybody else that's been

1188
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:15,330
involved in the life detection forum

1189
00:52:19,790 --> 00:52:17,310
project will be having an event on

1190
00:52:22,580 --> 00:52:19,800
Thursday night 5:30 in the large room

1191
00:52:24,050 --> 00:52:22,590
please don't don't don't hesitate to

1192
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:24,060
come along we're gonna actually be

1193
00:52:29,210 --> 00:52:25,890
engaging with the demo of how this new

1194
00:52:31,730 --> 00:52:29,220
web-based platform can work and finally

1195
00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:31,740
an enfold social activity please come

1196
00:52:34,180 --> 00:52:32,270
any

1197
00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:34,190
that's interested in becoming involved

1198
00:52:38,620 --> 00:52:36,230
and enfold in our activities will be at

1199
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:38,630
Henry's bar and tavern across the street

1200
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:40,790
right after the life detection forum

1201
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:54,710
event thanks great so I'm the third

1202
00:52:58,450 --> 00:52:56,810
child and also the third RCN I don't

1203
00:53:00,640 --> 00:52:58,460
know if you guys did that on purpose

1204
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:00,650
this is prebiotic chemistry in early

1205
00:53:05,590 --> 00:53:02,510
Earth environments consortium it's a

1206
00:53:07,210 --> 00:53:05,600
mouthful we have recently gotten started

1207
00:53:09,850 --> 00:53:07,220
we just a couple of months ago put our

1208
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:09,860
steering committee together let me tell

1209
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:12,530
you first what our science goal is and

1210
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,960
we spent about three months on this and

1211
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:16,880
I think we debate it every other day so

1212
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:18,590
feel free to change it it's to

1213
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:20,570
investigate the delivery synthesis and

1214
00:53:24,670 --> 00:53:22,490
fate of small molecules under the

1215
00:53:26,860 --> 00:53:24,680
conditions of the early Earth which we

1216
00:53:29,250 --> 00:53:26,870
probably still need to figure out and

1217
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:29,260
the subsequent or maybe concommittant

1218
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,760
formation of proto biological molecules

1219
00:53:36,250 --> 00:53:33,200
and pathways that lead to systems

1220
00:53:40,930 --> 00:53:36,260
harboring the potential for life how we

1221
00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:40,940
do that is to sort of break ourselves up

1222
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:43,070
or at least overlap ourselves into

1223
00:53:47,740 --> 00:53:45,130
several several seven different themes

1224
00:53:49,330 --> 00:53:47,750
so to sort of get to that particular

1225
00:53:51,340 --> 00:53:49,340
particular goal we're looking at

1226
00:53:54,090 --> 00:53:51,350
planetary evolution surface evolution

1227
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:54,100
chemical constraints inventories

1228
00:53:59,680 --> 00:53:57,170
specific environments right because not

1229
00:54:01,840 --> 00:53:59,690
every single piece of the planet looks

1230
00:54:04,170 --> 00:54:01,850
the same all the time and then the

1231
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:04,180
stability of small molecules in their

1232
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:07,760
evolution into prebiotic complexity if

1233
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:09,050
you would like to learn a little more

1234
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:11,210
about how we break these seven themes

1235
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:13,370
down into sort of specific disciplines

1236
00:54:17,590 --> 00:54:15,530
and topics and who's working on what

1237
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:17,600
that's all on our poster so come see our

1238
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:19,760
poster has this lovely purple and orange

1239
00:54:25,660 --> 00:54:23,930
theme so you can't miss it and I won't

1240
00:54:28,350 --> 00:54:25,670
take a lot of time going through the

1241
00:54:30,910 --> 00:54:28,360
objectives but how we get to this goal

1242
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:30,920
is not just to look at those science

1243
00:54:35,710 --> 00:54:33,290
themes but also sort of start to break

1244
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:35,720
down some of the barriers and and get

1245
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:37,280
the group talking right and so

1246
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:40,490
theme number one is to integrate and the

1247
00:54:43,450 --> 00:54:41,930
early Earth and prebiotic chemistry

1248
00:54:44,890 --> 00:54:43,460
community so we're going to bring

1249
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:44,900
everyone together and make sure we all

1250
00:54:48,310 --> 00:54:45,710
speak the same

1251
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:48,320
language we'd like to develop a robust

1252
00:54:51,849 --> 00:54:49,970
and fully parameterize model of the

1253
00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:51,859
early Earth so you know give us 30 years

1254
00:54:57,099 --> 00:54:53,990
and several more zeroes and commas after

1255
00:54:58,990 --> 00:54:57,109
the funding we can probably do that but

1256
00:55:00,690 --> 00:54:59,000
once we do that I think we'll be able to

1257
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:00,700
really conduct some novel and innovative

1258
00:55:05,950 --> 00:55:02,510
experiments and sort of theoretical

1259
00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:05,960
models of how prebiotic chemistry could

1260
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:07,430
and could not have worked on the early

1261
00:55:11,890 --> 00:55:09,770
Earth that will help us to identify the

1262
00:55:13,780 --> 00:55:11,900
conditions not just on earth but maybe

1263
00:55:15,849 --> 00:55:13,790
elsewhere where prebiotic chemistry can

1264
00:55:18,550 --> 00:55:15,859
happen and where it might should not

1265
00:55:20,290 --> 00:55:18,560
happen where it can't happen that might

1266
00:55:23,290 --> 00:55:20,300
save us from looking in places that are

1267
00:55:24,609 --> 00:55:23,300
not sort of worth looking at and then to

1268
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:24,619
characterize the geochemical and

1269
00:55:29,230 --> 00:55:26,510
geophysical constraints of early Earth

1270
00:55:31,180 --> 00:55:29,240
and by environments so we can sort of

1271
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:31,190
move on with future experimental and

1272
00:55:35,710 --> 00:55:32,960
theoretical prebiotic chemistry

1273
00:55:37,329 --> 00:55:35,720
so that's the objectives I have like

1274
00:55:38,770 --> 00:55:37,339
three minutes total and I think I'm

1275
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:38,780
probably over so I want to get to the

1276
00:55:44,890 --> 00:55:41,450
good stuff on the left of your stream

1277
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:44,900
screen you see the cat herders that's my

1278
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:47,570
Coley's myself Lauren Williams Rama

1279
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:50,000
Krishna Murthy and Tim Lyons Lauren and

1280
00:55:54,010 --> 00:55:52,910
Tim are here and then on the right our

1281
00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:54,020
steering committee

1282
00:55:58,060 --> 00:55:55,730
sometimes the cats and together we all

1283
00:56:00,190 --> 00:55:58,070
we get together and try and sort of

1284
00:56:02,770 --> 00:56:00,200
build this community but I would suggest

1285
00:56:04,690 --> 00:56:02,780
that a lot of you in the audience are

1286
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:04,700
really part of this community so we

1287
00:56:10,359 --> 00:56:07,070
encourage you to come and join us and

1288
00:56:12,339 --> 00:56:10,369
build on our ideas if you're on the

1289
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:12,349
right-hand side of this by the way and

1290
00:56:18,490 --> 00:56:15,920
you don't still understand what PC III

1291
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:18,500
is I suggest you come to 13 coins on

1292
00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:21,200
Tuesday for happy hour if any of you out

1293
00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:22,220
there are not on the steering committee

1294
00:56:25,690 --> 00:56:24,200
and you want to come have great ideas

1295
00:56:27,970 --> 00:56:25,700
and tell us what we should and shouldn't

1296
00:56:29,740 --> 00:56:27,980
do as part of PC e3 you should come

1297
00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:29,750
write it on a napkin at happy hour on

1298
00:56:34,810 --> 00:56:32,660
Tuesday if you would like to be put to

1299
00:56:37,450 --> 00:56:34,820
work on any of those you can come on

1300
00:56:39,790 --> 00:56:37,460
come to our Wednesday brown bag lunch in

1301
00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:39,800
the madrone room at 12:15 bring your

1302
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:41,390
lunch and we will see you there

1303
00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:53,650
[Applause]

1304
00:57:00,260 --> 00:56:57,500
representing the fourth and very new

1305
00:57:01,940 --> 00:57:00,270
ocean worlds is the network for ocean

1306
00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:01,950
worlds and that the time for this

1307
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:06,660
network is now the I'm one of the co

1308
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:09,930
leads with ELISA Roden and Chris German

1309
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:13,370
we have been working on the concept for

1310
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:16,050
this network in the last couple of

1311
00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:20,880
months and the overarching theme is

1312
00:57:24,730 --> 00:57:22,200
developing science and technology

1313
00:57:28,010 --> 00:57:24,740
research for exploring ocean worlds and

1314
00:57:29,330 --> 00:57:28,020
we think that ocean worlds research is

1315
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:29,340
really guiding the search for life

1316
00:57:35,090 --> 00:57:31,890
beyond Earth and particularly in three

1317
00:57:40,850 --> 00:57:35,100
key areas geophysics ocean systems and

1318
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:40,860
life and the geophysics is focused on

1319
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,450
looking at evolution of ice-covered

1320
00:57:46,670 --> 00:57:44,880
ocean worlds and processes that are

1321
00:57:50,330 --> 00:57:46,680
occurring at the boundaries ocean

1322
00:57:53,930 --> 00:57:50,340
systems are focused and habitability and

1323
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:53,940
the sustenance of life through time the

1324
00:58:00,610 --> 00:57:56,850
life areas are in resource exchange

1325
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:00,620
energy generation and the signs of life

1326
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,370
all three of these have a theme and that

1327
00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:07,440
we are emphasizing in terms of looking

1328
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:10,710
at comparative studies between amongst

1329
00:58:17,290 --> 00:58:12,930
the ocean worlds and including earth and

1330
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:17,300
there is a real emphasis in in this

1331
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:19,170
research coordination network on

1332
00:58:22,550 --> 00:58:20,910
integrating scientists and cross

1333
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:22,560
fertilizing between earth sciences

1334
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,400
division and the planetary sciences and

1335
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:29,040
in all three areas here looking at the

1336
00:58:32,810 --> 00:58:30,930
different boundaries between the ice

1337
00:58:35,180 --> 00:58:32,820
ocean interface in the ocean sediment

1338
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:35,190
interface we think are relevant for

1339
00:58:39,470 --> 00:58:37,440
geophysics understanding what's

1340
00:58:43,340 --> 00:58:39,480
happening for the ocean dynamics and

1341
00:58:46,850 --> 00:58:43,350
life the objectives that we have are

1342
00:58:48,620 --> 00:58:46,860
five which are to identify and stimulate

1343
00:58:51,740 --> 00:58:48,630
novel directions of inquiry through

1344
00:58:53,390 --> 00:58:51,750
enhanced communication within the PI

1345
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,400
community of scientists that are

1346
00:58:56,490 --> 00:58:55,440
involved and engaged in ocean worlds

1347
00:58:59,220 --> 00:58:56,500
both

1348
00:59:00,720 --> 00:58:59,230
in Earth and Planetary Sciences pursuing

1349
00:59:02,579 --> 00:59:00,730
activities of both reveal and address

1350
00:59:05,970 --> 00:59:02,589
critical knowledge gaps in ocean worlds

1351
00:59:08,490 --> 00:59:05,980
research and workshops around this we're

1352
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:08,500
planning to organize stimulating and

1353
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:09,730
facilitating new ocean world's

1354
00:59:14,790 --> 00:59:11,369
collaborations to undertake high-impact

1355
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:14,800
transdisciplinary research also

1356
00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:16,510
identifying and integrating research on

1357
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:18,760
earth and other ocean worlds to really

1358
00:59:22,260 --> 00:59:21,010
catalyze synergistic studies that

1359
00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:22,270
identify the conditions and the

1360
00:59:26,010 --> 00:59:24,310
potential for life to exist and if you

1361
00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:26,020
saw Chris Germans talk I think that's a

1362
00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:29,260
strong emphasis there the last is to

1363
00:59:33,089 --> 00:59:31,240
cultivate and augment the training of

1364
00:59:37,950 --> 00:59:33,099
the next generation of both generals

1365
00:59:41,609 --> 00:59:37,960
researchers the metrics of success that

1366
00:59:43,380 --> 00:59:41,619
we have are for one is really evidence

1367
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:43,390
that we have stimulated new research

1368
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:45,250
coordination zazz result in new

1369
00:59:49,050 --> 00:59:46,960
proposals being submitted that are

1370
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:49,060
traceable to the activities that we've

1371
00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:51,510
organized the second is influencing now

1372
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:53,950
the influence of now disseminated

1373
00:59:59,069 --> 00:59:56,410
information to things like the planning

1374
01:00:00,359 --> 00:59:59,079
of the next decade old survey the third

1375
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:00,369
is expansion of the ocean world's

1376
01:00:04,829 --> 01:00:03,010
community we really want to engage the

1377
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:04,839
people who are doing remote sensing on

1378
01:00:10,170 --> 01:00:07,690
earth and studying the cryosphere on

1379
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:10,180
earth and and see if we can bring and

1380
01:00:13,319 --> 01:00:11,890
engage and train this community to

1381
01:00:13,950 --> 01:00:13,329
thinking about ocean worlds out in the

1382
01:00:16,020 --> 01:00:13,960
solar system

1383
01:00:17,490 --> 01:00:16,030
and the fourth is the incorporation of

1384
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:17,500
now expertise into future flight

1385
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:22,240
missions such as the Europa clipper the

1386
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:24,970
who's invited you you might be going hey

1387
01:00:30,750 --> 01:00:27,490
they haven't invited me yet and that is

1388
01:00:34,859 --> 01:00:30,760
because we are sort of that are coming

1389
01:00:37,170 --> 01:00:34,869
out is today and the we we haven't

1390
01:00:40,319 --> 01:00:37,180
extended really many invitations at all

1391
01:00:42,059 --> 01:00:40,329
yet but those people teams that are

1392
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:42,069
funded and engaged in ocean world's

1393
01:00:47,099 --> 01:00:44,710
research are going to be invited and

1394
01:00:49,319 --> 01:00:47,109
those are in programs that have been

1395
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:49,329
introduced this evening but include the

1396
01:00:54,599 --> 01:00:51,250
habitable world solar system workings

1397
01:00:58,260 --> 01:00:54,609
Cassini data and data analysis program P

1398
01:00:59,700 --> 01:00:58,270
star exobiology Picasso Matisse and at

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01:01:00,690 --> 01:00:59,710
the bottom we have the Earth Sciences

1400
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:00,700
Division where there are several

1401
01:01:07,499 --> 01:01:02,250
programs in cryosphere science

1402
01:01:07,499 --> 01:01:07,509
oceanography ocean biology biochemistry

1403
01:01:12,329 --> 01:01:09,929
and really together we hope that this

1404
01:01:14,219 --> 01:01:12,339
program will really wind up developing a

1405
01:01:15,779 --> 01:01:14,229
vision for the future in future of what

1406
01:01:18,089 --> 01:01:15,789
ocean worlds research will really look

1407
01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:18,099
like and we have a new website that just

1408
01:01:23,849 --> 01:01:21,160
that is active as of early this morning

1409
01:01:35,579 --> 01:01:23,859
it is ocean world's dot space so please

1410
01:01:37,319 --> 01:01:35,589
come and visit it and often thanks so

1411
01:01:38,459 --> 01:01:37,329
I'm sorry for the packed evening but I

1412
01:01:41,579 --> 01:01:38,469
would like to spend a little bit time

1413
01:01:43,169 --> 01:01:41,589
letting people ask questions so the

1414
01:01:45,150 --> 01:01:43,179
leads are staying up here I'm up here

1415
01:01:46,589 --> 01:01:45,160
they're also the program officers that

1416
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,599
are sitting at the table down in front

1417
01:01:58,249 --> 01:01:48,640
so are there any questions there are

1418
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:03,439
Kevin had JPL this is this is great

1419
01:02:12,209 --> 01:02:07,529
but ultimately when it comes to missions

1420
01:02:17,630 --> 01:02:12,219
we've got all of the eggs around NASA

1421
01:02:21,569 --> 01:02:17,640
the the OPAC the meatbag the vex AG x AG

1422
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:21,579
XO pad everybody here know right so so

1423
01:02:28,890 --> 01:02:24,400
we all sort of divide up geographically

1424
01:02:30,809 --> 01:02:28,900
and these eggs then generate their white

1425
01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:30,819
papers and their priorities for the de

1426
01:02:35,449 --> 01:02:33,849
kado surveys astrobiology in my opinion

1427
01:02:39,239 --> 01:02:35,459
in the opinion of many of the folks here

1428
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:39,249
really got hit hard in the last decade

1429
01:02:46,049 --> 01:02:43,089
old survey in terms of being spread

1430
01:02:49,439 --> 01:02:46,059
across this sort of geography of the way

1431
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:49,449
nasa does its planning to that end i

1432
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:51,569
think looking forward we need an

1433
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:54,130
astrobiology assessment group we've got

1434
01:02:58,229 --> 01:02:55,839
to break the mold on how we're actually

1435
01:03:00,299 --> 01:02:58,239
doing our planning for the de kado

1436
01:03:05,809 --> 01:03:00,309
survey and our prioritization of

1437
01:03:12,989 --> 01:03:08,429
if you want mission zags are the way to

1438
01:03:15,089 --> 01:03:12,999
get them done and and if you want

1439
01:03:17,429 --> 01:03:15,099
missions the ads feed into the decadal

1440
01:03:19,949 --> 01:03:17,439
survey and that's if you want to learn

1441
01:03:21,749 --> 01:03:19,959
more about that I'm happy to let you buy

1442
01:03:26,909 --> 01:03:21,759
me a beer so I can cry into it about the

1443
01:03:28,529 --> 01:03:26,919
Europa Lander so in a case marry you and

1444
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:28,539
I have talked about this in the past can

1445
01:03:38,750 --> 01:03:30,640
we get an astrobiology assessment group

1446
01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:38,760
going Michael it was at you

1447
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:47,790
so you and I have chatted about this and

1448
01:03:52,890 --> 01:03:50,770
I don't think it's a good idea and it's

1449
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:52,900
because I think we need to be integrated

1450
01:03:56,790 --> 01:03:55,210
into the planetary science and I think

1451
01:03:58,410 --> 01:03:56,800
we need to be integrated into all these

1452
01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:58,420
eggs and I don't think we need to be

1453
01:04:03,570 --> 01:04:01,200
isolated on you know we don't need to

1454
01:04:06,090 --> 01:04:03,580
take it out back

1455
01:04:07,710 --> 01:04:06,100
I am really concerned that in the past

1456
01:04:09,570 --> 01:04:07,720
we've done two Keadle surveys and that

1457
01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:09,580
wasn't integrated and it was its own

1458
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:12,700
little section there ended up being a

1459
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:14,710
chapter on astrobiology and not a

1460
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:16,330
discussion of astrobiology and

1461
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:18,850
relationship to missions and so I'm

1462
01:04:25,110 --> 01:04:21,490
concerned I would like to see and I've

1463
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:25,120
been trying to work towards infiltrating

1464
01:04:30,860 --> 01:04:27,700
and integrating and making sure that

1465
01:04:34,020 --> 01:04:30,870
astrobiologists actually won't attend AG

1466
01:04:37,860 --> 01:04:34,030
meetings get their voices heard one of

1467
01:04:40,530 --> 01:04:37,870
the requirements for the new RC ends is

1468
01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:40,540
well a requirement a request is to

1469
01:04:46,410 --> 01:04:43,000
ensure that members from these RCN

1470
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:46,420
actually attend AG meetings and play a

1471
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:48,910
more active role I think that that's

1472
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:51,730
again working together to get the

1473
01:04:56,700 --> 01:04:53,650
missions that you want seem much better

1474
01:04:58,920 --> 01:04:56,710
to me than the antagonism that I would

1475
01:05:02,670 --> 01:04:58,930
say the current AG sometimes had again

1476
01:05:05,550 --> 01:05:02,680
with outer planets versus Mars versus

1477
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:05,560
Venus versus things to the moon I think

1478
01:05:09,330 --> 01:05:07,450
that we actually transcend almost all of

1479
01:05:12,330 --> 01:05:09,340
those groups and that's the way I think

1480
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:12,340
we should should do it so I would say

1481
01:05:17,250 --> 01:05:14,650
that I think we need to all work harder

1482
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:17,260
to get our voices heard in the in the

1483
01:05:22,110 --> 01:05:20,170
strongest groups that develop actually

1484
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:22,120
full-on missions because there's a lot

1485
01:05:28,650 --> 01:05:25,210
of people in astrobiology that aren't at

1486
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:28,660
Institute's that are developing missions

1487
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:30,730
that aren't part of current missions

1488
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:33,730
that have a lot to contribute and so I

1489
01:05:38,910 --> 01:05:36,010
worry that that they need to be included

1490
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:38,920
as well when's the last time you went to

1491
01:05:47,070 --> 01:05:45,520
OPEC I went two years ago you know I'm

1492
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:47,080
not the one that should be speaking for

1493
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:48,610
it but when was the last time

1494
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:53,410
and went September I mean it's you guys

1495
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:57,130
that need to be talking at that and so

1496
01:06:03,450 --> 01:06:00,640
and and again I can't travel everywhere

1497
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:03,460
but I'd be happy to I think we're doing

1498
01:06:08,970 --> 01:06:05,440
this community a real disservice by not

1499
01:06:10,770 --> 01:06:08,980
having a mechanism to better feed into

1500
01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:10,780
these eggs even if we do not have our

1501
01:06:14,580 --> 01:06:13,000
own eyes I agree entirely that we need a

1502
01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:14,590
better mechanism for feeding and I don't

1503
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:16,270
think actually letting us meet and

1504
01:06:19,410 --> 01:06:18,010
talking to ourselves is the way to do it

1505
01:06:21,090 --> 01:06:19,420
I guess is what I and so I'd like

1506
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:21,100
there's got to be something in between

1507
01:06:24,660 --> 01:06:23,200
what we have now and separating

1508
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:24,670
ourselves out and coming up with their

1509
01:06:29,850 --> 01:06:26,890
own white papers so I think this is a

1510
01:06:32,370 --> 01:06:29,860
really good discussion for the RC ends

1511
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:32,380
for other people in the community to

1512
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:33,910
find a better way I don't think anybody

1513
01:06:42,330 --> 01:06:35,710
disagrees that we're not feeding in well

1514
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:42,340
enough thanks um so on a similar note I

1515
01:06:45,630 --> 01:06:43,810
just want to remind everyone that in

1516
01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:45,640
addition to the eggs these decadal

1517
01:06:50,790 --> 01:06:48,520
surveys are ongoing the astrophysics one

1518
01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:50,800
is still taking white papers for the

1519
01:06:55,110 --> 01:06:53,830
Astro 2020 programs part of their calls

1520
01:06:57,090 --> 01:06:55,120
and not the science white papers by the

1521
01:06:59,790 --> 01:06:57,100
programs and and to follow up on

1522
01:07:02,550 --> 01:06:59,800
something I just heard Mary saying if we

1523
01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:02,560
want our sciences astrobiologist

1524
01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:04,390
included in these missions especially

1525
01:07:09,450 --> 01:07:07,120
the the cattle survey prioritized level

1526
01:07:11,310 --> 01:07:09,460
it's incumbent upon us as individuals to

1527
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:11,320
write white papers participate in those

1528
01:07:16,650 --> 01:07:12,850
white papers get involved in the eggs

1529
01:07:18,210 --> 01:07:16,660
where appropriate and when asked to

1530
01:07:19,770 --> 01:07:18,220
serve on the panel serve on the panels

1531
01:07:21,990 --> 01:07:19,780
for the dakedo surveys that's how it's

1532
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:22,000
going to happen you know we we have to

1533
01:07:26,970 --> 01:07:23,530
prioritize our science just like every

1534
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:26,980
other community so you know get after it

1535
01:07:32,610 --> 01:07:30,450
I guess is what I'm trying to say

1536
01:07:37,010 --> 01:07:32,620
there's not a question there I'm just

1537
01:07:43,850 --> 01:07:40,940
I just wanted to follow up the National

1538
01:07:47,900 --> 01:07:43,860
Academies goodness the committee that

1539
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:47,910
had astrobiology strategy it was like 17

1540
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:49,710
words long I could never remember it but

1541
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:51,450
we did just come out with a bunch of

1542
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:53,810
recommendations and one of them was that

1543
01:07:57,590 --> 01:07:55,680
everyone should always consider that

1544
01:07:59,480 --> 01:07:57,600
astrobiology should be incorporated into

1545
01:08:01,120 --> 01:07:59,490
every mission sort of that's how NASA

1546
01:08:03,020 --> 01:08:01,130
should go forward is thinking that

1547
01:08:04,460 --> 01:08:03,030
astrobiology should be one of the

1548
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:04,470
fundamental things that gets thought

1549
01:08:08,540 --> 01:08:06,480
about when developing missions and so

1550
01:08:10,430 --> 01:08:08,550
that's that's sort of already there how

1551
01:08:14,090 --> 01:08:10,440
we do it in or outside of an AG I'm

1552
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:14,100
agnostic on but I think it's it's out

1553
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:15,570
there and the community came together

1554
01:08:27,860 --> 01:08:24,620
apparently it's like hot potato chairs

1555
01:08:30,710 --> 01:08:27,870
up here no no dancer questions he's

1556
01:08:31,789 --> 01:08:30,720
going next what's up I'm wondering he's

1557
01:08:33,620 --> 01:08:31,799
going next

1558
01:08:34,849 --> 01:08:33,630
mine was related to eggs if yours isn't

1559
01:08:37,490 --> 01:08:34,859
related to actually could say it very

1560
01:08:39,710 --> 01:08:37,500
quickly go ahead okay I was just gonna

1561
01:08:40,940 --> 01:08:39,720
also follow up on that so for those

1562
01:08:42,380 --> 01:08:40,950
people who aren't aware of the

1563
01:08:44,510 --> 01:08:42,390
assessment group structure that

1564
01:08:47,150 --> 01:08:44,520
generally informs NASA about mission

1565
01:08:50,210 --> 01:08:47,160
priorities right now there's a growing

1566
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:50,220
number of them there's probably going to

1567
01:08:55,539 --> 01:08:53,250
be a new mercury one potentially so

1568
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:55,549
there's a lot of questions as to how

1569
01:09:01,640 --> 01:08:58,970
whether it's better to divide or or to

1570
01:09:03,980 --> 01:09:01,650
get together as different parts of the

1571
01:09:06,170 --> 01:09:03,990
community in terms of advising NASA

1572
01:09:10,099 --> 01:09:06,180
directly but right now there's me pag

1573
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:10,109
vex AG and Oh peg and s peg that all

1574
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:11,970
operate in the planetary science

1575
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:15,930
division to offer strategies I know XO

1576
01:09:21,860 --> 01:09:18,210
pag as well kind of operates between

1577
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:21,870
both astrophysics I think more inside of

1578
01:09:27,380 --> 01:09:24,960
astrophysics but two things to take note

1579
01:09:29,690 --> 01:09:27,390
of is that the a stroke and the o pad

1580
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:29,700
committee we worked very very hard to

1581
01:09:34,430 --> 01:09:31,710
make sure that we got astrobiologist

1582
01:09:37,490 --> 01:09:34,440
card-carrying astrobiologists onto the

1583
01:09:39,980 --> 01:09:37,500
organizing committee for Oh peg and so

1584
01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:39,990
that now includes people who I will

1585
01:09:43,790 --> 01:09:41,580
probably figure it as well as Morgan

1586
01:09:45,290 --> 01:09:43,800
cable and Jeff Bowman

1587
01:09:48,140 --> 01:09:45,300
Morgan news national biologist right

1588
01:09:50,270 --> 01:09:48,150
here Jeff who's an oceanographer and a

1589
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:50,280
microbiologist and so that represented

1590
01:09:54,290 --> 01:09:52,410
OPEC actually making an investment in

1591
01:09:56,210 --> 01:09:54,300
this direction the roadmap for ocean

1592
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:56,220
world's is another place where we have

1593
01:10:01,610 --> 01:09:58,800
tried to help prioritize outer planets

1594
01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:01,620
missions or at least this synergizing

1595
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:03,120
ocean world science into those

1596
01:10:07,220 --> 01:10:05,250
priorities but these are examples of

1597
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:07,230
mission of meetings that everyone should

1598
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:09,210
participate in if you can't come in

1599
01:10:14,420 --> 01:10:11,610
person they're available over the phone

1600
01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:14,430
you can participate in the telecoms and

1601
01:10:18,110 --> 01:10:16,680
in the activities and they're very very

1602
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:18,120
important because they're where we

1603
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:20,130
discuss priorities as different parts of

1604
01:10:24,380 --> 01:10:22,410
the community and advise NASA on

1605
01:10:25,550 --> 01:10:24,390
directions and for forward motion and

1606
01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:25,560
the other thing I wanted to highlight

1607
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:28,020
that in the XO peg meeting that Vickie

1608
01:10:33,860 --> 01:10:30,570
ran this afternoon or sorry Sunday

1609
01:10:36,230 --> 01:10:33,870
afternoon there was a discussion of a

1610
01:10:38,530 --> 01:10:36,240
joint meeting between XO peg vex AG and

1611
01:10:40,820 --> 01:10:38,540
Oh peg that may happen in the future

1612
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:40,830
that's really important because it's an

1613
01:10:45,290 --> 01:10:43,050
example of ABS working together to

1614
01:10:47,630 --> 01:10:45,300
synergize and to make the group smaller

1615
01:10:49,550 --> 01:10:47,640
rather than more divisive and so I would

1616
01:10:51,530 --> 01:10:49,560
highly suggest that everyone becomes a

1617
01:10:53,780 --> 01:10:51,540
participant in that an n-fold will be

1618
01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:53,790
really focusing on white papers to

1619
01:10:58,490 --> 01:10:55,470
contribute to the planetary de Cadle I

1620
01:11:00,620 --> 01:10:58,500
know I showed up sorry I also want to

1621
01:11:02,330 --> 01:11:00,630
just add something that there's the

1622
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:02,340
Committee on astrobiology and Planetary

1623
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:04,890
Sciences that's an advisory committee

1624
01:11:08,540 --> 01:11:07,410
that's at the National Academy and they

1625
01:11:10,580 --> 01:11:08,550
are responsible for making

1626
01:11:13,190 --> 01:11:10,590
recommendations of the organization of

1627
01:11:14,810 --> 01:11:13,200
the next two Kadel survey the co-chair

1628
01:11:18,770 --> 01:11:14,820
is Chris house who's here at this

1629
01:11:20,420 --> 01:11:18,780
meeting I can't think of other members

1630
01:11:23,060 --> 01:11:20,430
that might be here but that's a good

1631
01:11:26,890 --> 01:11:23,070
place for you to voice your concerns too

1632
01:11:32,540 --> 01:11:26,900
about how astrobiology is considered in

1633
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:32,550
indicate all surveys Mary you mentioned

1634
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:34,710
this is general your bro can it Ellery

1635
01:11:41,420 --> 01:11:37,440
sorry I just just one other thing to

1636
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:41,430
speak about the XO peg I'm sorry I'm

1637
01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:43,890
gutted I am the program scientist for

1638
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:45,510
the exoplanet program at NASA

1639
01:11:48,860 --> 01:11:47,130
headquarters and in the astrophysics

1640
01:11:51,050 --> 01:11:48,870
division and I just wanted to jump on

1641
01:11:52,730 --> 01:11:51,060
you you mentioned the XO peg which does

1642
01:11:53,889 --> 01:11:52,740
which is coordinated out of the

1643
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:53,899
astrophysics division

1644
01:11:58,270 --> 01:11:56,090
so it might be sometimes transparent to

1645
01:12:01,989 --> 01:11:58,280
y'all here in this community I want to

1646
01:12:03,609 --> 01:12:01,999
encourage you to to if you google XO peg

1647
01:12:04,989 --> 01:12:03,619
and go to the XO peg page you can sign

1648
01:12:07,029 --> 01:12:04,999
up for our e-mail exploder that

1649
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:07,039
announces things in particular talking

1650
01:12:11,709 --> 01:12:09,110
about the executive committee of the XO

1651
01:12:13,689 --> 01:12:11,719
peg every year round about January we

1652
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:13,699
put out a call a Dear Colleague letter

1653
01:12:18,699 --> 01:12:17,030
to the community soliciting people to

1654
01:12:20,909 --> 01:12:18,709
nominate themselves or nominate others

1655
01:12:25,259 --> 01:12:20,919
to serve on the executive committee of

1656
01:12:28,029 --> 01:12:25,269
of the XO peg and we would welcome

1657
01:12:29,919 --> 01:12:28,039
welcome nominations from from this

1658
01:12:32,639 --> 01:12:29,929
community we certainly are trying to

1659
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:32,649
represent the breath of the exoplanet

1660
01:12:37,449 --> 01:12:35,209
exploration stakeholder community which

1661
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:37,459
certainly includes astrobiology so I

1662
01:12:41,859 --> 01:12:40,010
encourage you to to try and link in

1663
01:12:47,919 --> 01:12:41,869
because we would welcome your

1664
01:12:50,729 --> 01:12:47,929
contribution oh sorry

1665
01:12:52,889 --> 01:12:50,739
our current chair is right here Vicky

1666
01:12:58,750 --> 01:12:52,899
sorry about that

1667
01:13:02,129 --> 01:12:58,760
astrobiologist Jenna Eichenberg NASA

1668
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:02,139
Goddard Space Flight Center I wanted to

1669
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:05,840
kind of add another element to the

1670
01:13:09,819 --> 01:13:07,610
discussion that's going on and marry you

1671
01:13:12,909 --> 01:13:09,829
you mentioned a very important word and

1672
01:13:15,609 --> 01:13:12,919
that was integration essentially we've

1673
01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:15,619
got two communities and they've kind of

1674
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,689
evolved in their own pathways the agz

1675
01:13:22,299 --> 01:13:19,760
representing more of the mission related

1676
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:22,309
people doing what they've done and then

1677
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:24,169
we've got the astrobiology which is

1678
01:13:29,290 --> 01:13:26,719
really got a foundation in a lot of

1679
01:13:30,969 --> 01:13:29,300
academic research and we need to blend

1680
01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:30,979
the two together that's what we're

1681
01:13:36,279 --> 01:13:34,129
talking about doing so you've heard the

1682
01:13:38,350 --> 01:13:36,289
folks from the mission side saying hey

1683
01:13:41,290 --> 01:13:38,360
we want you all to get involved in the

1684
01:13:44,259 --> 01:13:41,300
acts you do you need to do that if you

1685
01:13:48,819 --> 01:13:44,269
want to see the the science that you

1686
01:13:52,010 --> 01:13:48,829
have you developed here on earth take

1687
01:13:54,990 --> 01:13:52,020
foot in a mission somewhere else

1688
01:13:57,839 --> 01:13:55,000
but the same token we need to reach out

1689
01:14:00,030 --> 01:13:57,849
to the planetary scientists and other

1690
01:14:02,430 --> 01:14:00,040
people who are in SMD doing mission work

1691
01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:02,440
and get them involved in all of these

1692
01:14:10,290 --> 01:14:06,940
groups so some of us aren't necessarily

1693
01:14:12,689 --> 01:14:10,300
on one of the proposals on they aren't

1694
01:14:14,970 --> 01:14:12,699
actually funded through astrobiology but

1695
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:14,980
we might be doing it so I'm not sure

1696
01:14:19,950 --> 01:14:18,010
what the Avenue is for that but I would

1697
01:14:22,109 --> 01:14:19,960
just encourage that all of these groups

1698
01:14:24,959 --> 01:14:22,119
reach out to as many of the people that

1699
01:14:27,379 --> 01:14:24,969
they can who are involved in missions to

1700
01:14:29,220 --> 01:14:27,389
get involved and share their knowledge

1701
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:29,230
so though we can all work together

1702
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:31,770
because ultimately the missions need the

1703
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:34,090
astrobiologists and the astrobiologists

1704
01:14:38,430 --> 01:14:36,010
need the missions they go hand in hand

1705
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:38,440
so the integration has to come from both

1706
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:40,510
directions not just this we're doing

1707
01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:47,920
something else hi this is Bill diamond

1708
01:14:52,859 --> 01:14:50,020
from the SETI Institute so at the risk

1709
01:14:56,220 --> 01:14:52,869
of taking on too much intellectual risk

1710
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:56,230
I have a question about the RCS and and

1711
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:57,730
how they're going to work or how they do

1712
01:15:03,169 --> 01:14:59,920
work one of the attributes as I

1713
01:15:05,370 --> 01:15:03,179
understand it of the NA I was was a core

1714
01:15:07,950 --> 01:15:05,380
administrative function if you will that

1715
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:07,960
whose purpose was to kind of bring

1716
01:15:12,959 --> 01:15:11,110
together the different nai teams and do

1717
01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:12,969
the cross-pollination of ideas and

1718
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:16,030
exchanges of information etc in the new

1719
01:15:20,430 --> 01:15:18,489
structure with the AI cars how is that

1720
01:15:22,169 --> 01:15:20,440
going to work in terms of you'll have

1721
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:22,179
different teams is there going to be a

1722
01:15:25,919 --> 01:15:24,730
mechanism or infrastructure for sort of

1723
01:15:32,089 --> 01:15:25,929
the coordination and communication

1724
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:34,189
so sorry bill just to clarify do you

1725
01:15:38,379 --> 01:15:36,000
mean the constituent teens of a given

1726
01:15:41,390 --> 01:15:38,389
asean or do you mean between the RC ends

1727
01:15:45,050 --> 01:15:41,400
within an RC and so yeah for example the

1728
01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:45,060
the astrobiology what is going to take

1729
01:15:48,919 --> 01:15:47,310
the place now the nai so for Nexus we

1730
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:48,929
have some experience with this yeah we

1731
01:15:53,180 --> 01:15:50,880
have you know all of our P is from these

1732
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:53,190
different programs it's very much it's

1733
01:15:57,919 --> 01:15:56,310
very much bottom-up so so the management

1734
01:15:59,780 --> 01:15:57,929
at the top of which I'm one of the

1735
01:16:01,990 --> 01:15:59,790
members with sort of the cat herders but

1736
01:16:04,339 --> 01:16:02,000
we hold meetings for the steering group

1737
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:04,349
to come together and to decide what's

1738
01:16:06,859 --> 01:16:05,610
important to them or what activities

1739
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:06,869
they would like to support and to have

1740
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:08,489
that discussion and so the ideas really

1741
01:16:12,740 --> 01:16:11,730
do come grassroots from the pis and from

1742
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:12,750
the people who are interested in that

1743
01:16:17,569 --> 01:16:15,210
science and then we help enable whatever

1744
01:16:19,010 --> 01:16:17,579
they come up with so so that is the way

1745
01:16:20,810 --> 01:16:19,020
that works so instead of a sort of more

1746
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:20,820
top-down structure it's very much the

1747
01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:21,840
community figuring out what the

1748
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:23,520
community wants then making sure there's

1749
01:16:26,510 --> 01:16:25,050
enough infrastructure there to actually

1750
01:16:28,430 --> 01:16:26,520
enable it and make it happen

1751
01:16:30,050 --> 01:16:28,440
and in terms of that student committee

1752
01:16:32,450 --> 01:16:30,060
facilitating that process is this

1753
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:32,460
something you do on a annual basis or

1754
01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:35,730
quarterly basis or is there a steering

1755
01:16:40,189 --> 01:16:37,679
group meetings I mean depends on the RCN

1756
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:40,199
it can be on a monthly basis so you know

1757
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:41,760
and that sort of a timescale it's not

1758
01:16:45,589 --> 01:16:43,170
it's not annual because it's more

1759
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:45,599
frequently than that leaves me weekly

1760
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:49,170
get we meet weekly to hope to go over

1761
01:16:54,020 --> 01:16:50,730
issues for them for the group and they

1762
01:16:57,260 --> 01:16:54,030
meet monthly with the point of contact

1763
01:17:01,609 --> 01:16:57,270
at headquarters so Nexus meets with me

1764
01:17:04,459 --> 01:17:01,619
and Doug agendas and then there's a plan

1765
01:17:07,129 --> 01:17:04,469
so you know Nexus is the oldest one then

1766
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:07,139
enfoque came on about a year ago and the

1767
01:17:12,770 --> 01:17:10,050
last two just happened starting before

1768
01:17:15,229 --> 01:17:12,780
the shutdown slowed down a bit and then

1769
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:15,239
picked up again and so the plan too is

1770
01:17:18,649 --> 01:17:17,010
when all of them are online and the

1771
01:17:20,350 --> 01:17:18,659
steering committee knows everybody knows

1772
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:20,360
what's going on there's going to be

1773
01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:24,810
quarterly to buy semiannual meetings of

1774
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:27,910
all of the leads and then an an you

1775
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:29,890
meeting of all of the people that are

1776
01:17:33,780 --> 01:17:31,120
part of the air sea ends either at

1777
01:17:35,850 --> 01:17:33,790
something like as taps icon or another

1778
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:35,860
alternate meeting so those things that

1779
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:37,930
kind of bubble up bottoms up then still

1780
01:17:45,660 --> 01:17:40,770
get disseminated you know ultimately

1781
01:17:47,790 --> 01:17:45,670
kind of by the steering committees part

1782
01:17:49,770 --> 01:17:47,800
they bubble up and do what well if so so

1783
01:17:51,330 --> 01:17:49,780
you've got this the coordination

1784
01:17:52,890 --> 01:17:51,340
communication you've talked about it

1785
01:17:54,750 --> 01:17:52,900
happening you know bottoms up instead of

1786
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:54,760
top down but then ultimately this

1787
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:57,010
information is is getting to the

1788
01:18:00,840 --> 01:17:58,330
steering committee it's discussed on

1789
01:18:02,610 --> 01:18:00,850
these monthly meetings etc and then you

1790
01:18:06,030 --> 01:18:02,620
know sort of the outcome of that or the

1791
01:18:07,980 --> 01:18:06,040
output they're coming up with ideas of

1792
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:07,990
activities for the community beyond

1793
01:18:14,370 --> 01:18:11,650
themselves and they're a larger

1794
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:14,380
representation so instead of maybe one

1795
01:18:21,330 --> 01:18:18,130
geophysicist on a small committee there

1796
01:18:23,340 --> 01:18:21,340
are 34 people that study exoplanets that

1797
01:18:24,420 --> 01:18:23,350
are coming up with ideas or

1798
01:18:25,650 --> 01:18:24,430
representatives from the community

1799
01:18:28,890 --> 01:18:25,660
because they also have their team

1800
01:18:30,570 --> 01:18:28,900
members to bring forward ideas for I

1801
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:30,580
mean they talked about organizing white

1802
01:18:37,230 --> 01:18:33,130
papers they talked about Nexus has had

1803
01:18:39,630 --> 01:18:37,240
five four four workshops since it

1804
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:39,640
started these are all activities that

1805
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:42,130
serve the rest of the community so the

1806
01:18:46,220 --> 01:18:44,110
ideas and stuff coming from me or coming

1807
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:46,230
or Lindsey are coming from the community

1808
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:50,130
great thank you that's helpful Thanks

1809
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:52,570
hi this is Dave Dima right here I just

1810
01:18:55,950 --> 01:18:53,650
want to make a little bit of a

1811
01:18:58,710 --> 01:18:55,960
historical comment about the importance

1812
01:19:01,500 --> 01:18:58,720
of Nai the importance of the emag eggs

1813
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:01,510
in this case me peg and starting back in

1814
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:03,130
the 90s course the astrobiology

1815
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:05,530
Institute started in 1997 the meet peg

1816
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:07,930
effort really got going in the 90s also

1817
01:19:13,890 --> 01:19:11,050
and this was an important period where

1818
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:13,900
the Mars exploration Rovers are being

1819
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:16,090
developed but hadn't landed yet and we

1820
01:19:21,570 --> 01:19:19,930
had to decide just what this Mars

1821
01:19:24,980 --> 01:19:21,580
Science Laboratory mission was going to

1822
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:24,990
be all about the Curiosity rover and

1823
01:19:32,220 --> 01:19:27,760
that was about that in the 90s was when

1824
01:19:34,170 --> 01:19:32,230
I was involved with me peg and because

1825
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:34,180
of the astrobiology Institute several of

1826
01:19:38,730 --> 01:19:36,610
us in the astrobiology community made a

1827
01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:38,740
point of attending these me pag meetings

1828
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:40,320
which are quite frequent at that

1829
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:43,770
and frankly led up to determining who

1830
01:19:48,050 --> 01:19:45,570
would be selected for science definition

1831
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:48,060
teams and to make a long story short

1832
01:19:54,109 --> 01:19:51,440
because of our participation and me pag

1833
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:54,119
curiosity became a rover instead of a

1834
01:19:59,180 --> 01:19:56,250
fixed Lander it was the astrobiology

1835
01:20:02,149 --> 01:19:59,190
input through me pag to those teams that

1836
01:20:04,370 --> 01:20:02,159
made it a rover and we had to win that

1837
01:20:06,109 --> 01:20:04,380
argument before the Mars rovers landed

1838
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:06,119
the Spirit and Opportunity lanta so we

1839
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:08,010
hadn't seen the wonderful things yet and

1840
01:20:12,020 --> 01:20:10,290
we still had to win that argument so

1841
01:20:15,589 --> 01:20:12,030
this is a real impact and I would

1842
01:20:17,319 --> 01:20:15,599
suggest in the as nai is now being

1843
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:17,329
succeeded by these new organizations

1844
01:20:21,740 --> 01:20:19,650
that there be travel fund that these

1845
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:21,750
groups make sure that they support

1846
01:20:26,540 --> 01:20:24,239
travel to these eggs because you just

1847
01:20:28,819 --> 01:20:26,550
have to be there too and then you make a

1848
01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:28,829
difference astrobiology is important the

1849
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:30,510
first few of you who go to these are

1850
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:33,090
going to be really standouts because

1851
01:20:36,649 --> 01:20:34,530
there's not you're not well represented

1852
01:20:37,870 --> 01:20:36,659
which means they want you to be involved

1853
01:20:39,740 --> 01:20:37,880
in things because they know that

1854
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:39,750
astrobiology is part of what sells

1855
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:42,000
missions and so I would just want to say

1856
01:20:45,950 --> 01:20:44,250
there's demonstrated impact in the past

1857
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:45,960
there's good reason to expect that if

1858
01:20:49,370 --> 01:20:47,760
there's a mechanism for supporting

1859
01:20:57,530 --> 01:20:49,380
attendance at these things that you're

1860
01:20:58,939 --> 01:20:57,540
going to have impact in the future say

1861
01:21:01,459 --> 01:20:58,949
thank you so much for that comment I

1862
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:01,469
also say that the strategy that that was

1863
01:21:05,780 --> 01:21:03,570
delivered from the study that the

1864
01:21:07,970 --> 01:21:05,790
National Academy did pointed out that

1865
01:21:10,850 --> 01:21:07,980
the mechanism for getting astrobiology

1866
01:21:14,959 --> 01:21:10,860
into these missions needed help and

1867
01:21:18,109 --> 01:21:14,969
needed some creative energy put towards

1868
01:21:20,750 --> 01:21:18,119
figuring out how to do that best so it's

1869
01:21:23,060 --> 01:21:20,760
a recognized issue and we certainly know

1870
01:21:24,740 --> 01:21:23,070
thank you for your hard work as any pag

1871
01:21:29,629 --> 01:21:24,750
and all of you that attend these acts

1872
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:29,639
it's really important good evening San

1873
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:32,130
Jose on Blue Marble space so the DNA I

1874
01:21:37,939 --> 01:21:35,010
fostered a community of foreign

1875
01:21:39,709 --> 01:21:37,949
institutions that enabled and validated

1876
01:21:42,979 --> 01:21:39,719
astrobiology research in foreign

1877
01:21:45,379 --> 01:21:42,989
countries particularly South America and

1878
01:21:47,970 --> 01:21:45,389
Asia and I was wondering how these this

1879
01:21:50,990 --> 01:21:47,980
network will continue in the RCN if you

1880
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:51,000
astrobiology so the arrange the

1881
01:22:00,740 --> 01:21:55,360
partnerships between foreign entities

1882
01:22:05,370 --> 01:22:03,840
curated by the NAI the actual agreements

1883
01:22:10,110 --> 01:22:05,380
are between headquarters and these

1884
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:10,120
entities and particularly for the ones

1885
01:22:19,890 --> 01:22:16,570
that resulted in tangible activities

1886
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:19,900
that supported the research for NASA and

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01:22:28,710 --> 01:22:26,170
the education for for training continued

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beyond that initial impetus and there is

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no reason why they won't continue

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afterwards I think they're gonna be

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handled a little bit differently I think

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there's going to be more rigorous

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evaluation of who we enter into an

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agreement that's a request from the

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office of interagency and international

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relations and they'll be established and

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review on a regular basis so they don't

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you know they sunset so that that's the

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intent for the future thank you Jason

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work in NASA Goddard just as uh so I

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know scheduling is really hard and so

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but we need to do a better job of of

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trying to inform the agz of when they

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can meet so for example today was s back

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and tomorrow so I'll bet you that there

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won't be a whole lot of astrobiology

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okay I'm Ron Turner I'm the senior

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science advisor to the NASA innovative

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advanced concepts program and I just

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wanted everybody to be aware that

1911
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there's another way that you can explore

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you know these creative ideas that may

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:45,860
have make a difference in astrobiology

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and it's a program run out of the space

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technology Mission Directorate Nayak I'm

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gonna be around most of the week if you

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have any questions please feel free to

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catch me thanks hello Justin Lawrence

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Georgia Tech I had a sort of specific

1920
01:24:04,989 --> 01:24:03,679
question about roses there was an email

1921
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,999
that went out a couple weeks ago about

1922
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the inclusion of Antarctic field work

1923
01:24:10,359 --> 01:24:08,929
back in solar systems workings solar

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system workings and I was wondering if

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that would apply to other programs like

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P star etc or sort of what the nature of

1927
01:24:19,569 --> 01:24:15,889
the NSF NASA relationship is currently

1928
01:24:21,969 --> 01:24:19,579
down south actually didn't get what you

1929
01:24:24,549 --> 01:24:21,979
were what did you say good there's an

1930
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,559
email about three weeks ago about

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Antarctic field work being included back

1932
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in solar systems workings and we're

1933
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actually testing that the relationship

1934
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between actually Michael can even speak

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to this the relationship between NASA

1936
01:24:42,129 --> 01:24:40,400
and NSF has had some issues about who's

1937
01:24:45,129 --> 01:24:42,139
you know fortunately we're not one

1938
01:24:47,979 --> 01:24:45,139
government and we operate very

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01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:47,989
differently and so we're waiting to see

1940
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if this new new the most recent run at

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01:24:57,850 --> 01:24:54,769
collaboration with NSF actually will

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01:25:01,180 --> 01:24:57,860
work for solar system workings and then

1943
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we'll consider they're happy yeah we'll

1944
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consider expanding it to other programs

1945
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okay can can I make one last final

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comment if people want to get more

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involved as astrobiologists in the Astro

1948
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2020 effort just be aware that on the XO

1949
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peg website we have a spreadsheet where

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people can put the ideas and things

1951
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they're interested in working on and

1952
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solicit co-signers and co-authors so if

1953
01:25:28,570 --> 01:25:26,960
you as an astrobiologist would like to

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01:25:29,650 --> 01:25:28,580
contribute to something or even come up

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with your own white paper that is

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totally fine that resources there if

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you'd like to go shopping for